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That spot occurs when juice gets inside of the screen.
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That graph it should be vaping perfectly fine. Ohms is holding steady too.
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Ah yes, I have a few FreeMax Mesh Pro tanks too. Those coils takes a lot to turn them all the way in until it clearly won't turn any further. I wasn't screwing mine in all of the way at first since it is so tight before it bottoms out. But that could be part of the problem. Nice graph, but on the left you need to have voltage, current, and live ohms checked too. You also need to take a few puffs too. That way it will be easy to see what the DNA is having a problem with. It would be really nice to get a graph of the ohms jumping around too.
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Dang, what kind are these tanks? Are you using wattage or TC. Ever used EScribe before to take a screen shot of a few puffs under the Device Manager with live ohms, temperature (if using TC), power, voltage, and current checked. Like this (except this example doesn't have temperature checked since it is in wattage mode).
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Are you running in power mode? Because some mods (not the DNA or YiHi) read the resistance just once and done. Although any mod under temperature control must also read both the cold resistance and live resistance. Which resistance the mod displays depends on the firmware of the mod. So not seeing the resistance jump around doesn't necessarily mean it isn't. You can lock the cold resistance of the DNA and YiHi mods, then it should act like your other mods. But that doesn't solve your problem per se. But it should vape better anyway. As for the resistance jumping around, it sounds like your atomizer has some connection problems and some serious cleaning is required.
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You mean temperature to flatline, right? Wattage is will automatically adjust to keep the temperature at the set value. Unless of course it is set low enough that it can't reach the set temperature, then it will give it all. Just like wattage mode. TC will just throttle the wattage to keep it from going higher than the set temperature.
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Yes it will reread the cold resistance, so no worries there. Letting the mod cool down isn’t such a big deal, unlike the coil. Although it does affect it a bit. Yes the Replay looks normal and slight different max temperatures is perfectly normal. Although once it hits the set temperature, the line should be fairly straight. So should the live resistance. Notice it is a bit wavy? This is usually a connection problem like a coil is not tight enough. I remember pbusardo saying that Kayfun’s doesn’t have solid enough connections for TC. He said that years ago, so maybe that was back then. As mine seemed to do ok.
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Yes, let the coil cool down first, at least 15 minutes. 30 would be better. And no need to lock the ohms if connections are good.
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RealMcCoy I believe is talking about the graph on the DNA75C screen that is called Puff Info on the default theme. You can page back to like the last 400 puffs. And each one is numbered. The last one is a number higher than the non-resettable puff counter. I am pretty sure the board sensor is in the processor (or some other high heat component) and the room sensor is a sensor on the board. I could be wrong though.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention about the room temperature. Remember the (DNA) room sensor is on the board. And the board is inside of the mod with very few vents. And inside it gets heat from the 510 (atomizer firing), the board, and the batteries. So inside of the box it is likely going to be a bit warmer than the room temperature. So that explains that one. But it is close enough to work well with TC and Replay. As it takes the room temperature into account with coil temperature.
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Also what do you mean about the CSV file that the last two numbers are on top of one another? Here is the CSV file for SS316L. "Temperature (degF)","Electrical Resistivity" -40.0000,0.9347440000 68.0000,1.0000000000 122.0000,1.0300000000 212.0000,1.0800000000 302.0000,1.1260000000 392.0000,1.1680000000 482.0000,1.2070000000 572.0000,1.2460000000
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That sounds about right for lower temps for fruit flavors. And it sounds like when you use wattage mode, you are vaping at higher than 420°F. Maybe that is why you like the flavor better? By the way, Replay under wattage mode will also give you dry hit protection. So no worries there. The CSV files from steam-engine are calibrated curves based on the material. If you change them it will no longer be calibrated. You could create a calibrated one yourself with the right equipment. As for willy-nilly changing one, I don't know why you would. It most likely wouldn't vape right. As for the puff counter. Well there are a number of puff counters in the DNA. There is a resettable one, a non-resettable, a TC one, and maybe more. And the one in the graph never seems to match any of them (it is always a bit higher). I am not sure why that is. Someone might know. I do have one DNA250C that I never fired and I bought it as a spare and EScribe says it has 0 puffs on it. I never seen one with 0 puffs before, as they always come with a few on them. I should check to see what the graph says, eh?
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Different flavorings will peek at different temperatures. Plus your graph shows you are going straight to 420°F from the get go. This isn't how wattage mode works. As wattage mode ramps up through a range of temperatures. Thus depending on the flavorings, you will likely be hitting different flavor peaks during the puff while going straight to 420°F won't. The easy solution would be to just use Replay under wattage mode and to be done with it. Although if you do want to continue with TC, I'd drop the wattage until you get that slower ramp up through the temperatures. And you can set TC higher than 420°F too. As up to 460°F is considered safe for vaping. It is true that above 420°F will singe dry cotton, but not true of wet cotton. By the way, you can also use Replay in TC too. That way once you get the temperature ramp up to your liking, you can lock it in with Replay. Otherwise a cold coil will ramp up differently than a warm coil without Replay.
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SXK Supbox Incorrect Resistance Help Needed
BillW50 replied to TechnoMania's topic in General Discussion
Well locking the resistance locks the the resistance that it assumes is at room temperature. Say the coil temperature is currently at 400°F (hot coil) and you lock it. Now it will be 400 - 70 = 330°F hotter than the set temperature. Since the DNA also has what is called refinement. Anyway you normally shouldn't need to lock the resistance. See for yourself from the manual. Now why would locking the resistance at room temperature cause it to stop firing (kicking out)? For some reason the DNA thinks the coil is heating up a lot faster than it should based on the sharp increase in resistance. Thus it kicks out before something starts toasting. This could happen if the live resistance in TC mode doesn't have a solid enough connection. Or if the TFR/TCR is way off. Another reason is the wick is dry. Now the Supbox has that 510 adapter ring. That is an extra piece and added resistance that other mods usually doesn't have. That piece could be a source of instability too. Cleaning it and the threads with alcohol could help. -
I am not sure, but I think Evolv's hands are tied. Because they have to follow the FDA regulations. At least when it comes to selling within the states. And if they change anything, that requires another PMTA application and they can't sell any of them until it is approved.
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SXK Supbox Incorrect Resistance Help Needed
BillW50 replied to TechnoMania's topic in General Discussion
First, when you say protection, it is vaping at the set temperature or does it stop producing vapor? Big difference. The former is normal and the latter there is a problem. In my experience when it pops instantly into the latter protection, the TFR/TCR is likely set wrong for that material type. SS is tough since it is an alloy, the temperature coefficient can vary from manufacture to manufacture and even batch to batch. If the temperature is hitting correctly, the TFR/TCR can't be too far off, or the temperature control would be off a lot too. Now does your USA-made ohm meter reads resistance showing the fluctuations just for that atty, or for everything? If just that atty is fluctuating, this too could cause it to instantly go into protect. Locking the resistance, only locks the cold resistance and not the live fluctuating resistance. And Wayneo is right too btw. -
SXK Supbox Incorrect Resistance Help Needed
BillW50 replied to TechnoMania's topic in General Discussion
You can short the 510 on the mod and read the resistance from the Atomizer Analyzer (don't fire it and it isn't necessary - a spark is normal [0.5v]). And the value it says you need in put in EScribe's mod resistance. And the resistance being off by 0.06Ω shouldn't affect the TC working as long as the connection is solid. Although the temperature setting may not be accurate and maybe off a dozen or so degrees. -
And you want to use VV for what? Ni200 or Titanium? Although it would make more sense for using those for TC or Replay mode. Otherwise if you use wattage, you can adjust the voltage up or down by changing the wattage. For example, right now I am vaping a Ni80 mesh at 2.08v on a DNA75C (currently set at 20w). It will always be at 2.08v until I change the wattage. So to make a point, I just changed the wattage to 20.5w and now the voltage is 2.11v. And it will be 2.11v forever until I change the wattage again. I can dial in any voltage I want within the limits of the board. I don't see any issues.
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The only thing I can think of is some micro-USB cables are power only without data connections. They are designed for charging only and they won't connect with a DNA mod (although they will charge). They don't mark these cables and I wish they would. I mark mine by using blue tape or blue cable ties for data and power and red for power only. The Odin includes a cable that is a data and power cable. Did you try that one too?
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I just recently went back to one version earlier and it allows you to toggle which parts you want to install or not and one of them were drivers.
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If you are using something old like Windows XP, I believe you need to manually install drivers too. If you are using Windows 7 or newer, Windows should have them already.
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Here. This will restore the Odin Mini DNA75C to factory settings and includes the theme. Dovpo Odin DNA75C (orig2).ecig
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I use 70VG and 50VG in mine. I too was concerned about juice getting inside even though the PCB has been conformal coated. So when I store mine, I remove the pod and store it upside down. I also store the device upside down too. Although I never seen anything come out of it yet.
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Thanks. Deleted all Evolv's cookies and I even closed Firefox and all Evolv tabs and restarted and the results are the same. Thanks for your time anyway.