Alexander Mundy Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Posted June 27, 2015 I assume that longer screen cables would be limited to OEM orders. If so, what are the Zif connector and flat cable specs so a DIY extension could be made?
SSV Posted June 27, 2015 Report Posted June 27, 2015 So it's possible to move away from the flat/flex ribbon to a "pigtail/jumper"? are there any capacitive issues to take into account with longer runs of traditional jumpers?
JLIT Posted June 29, 2015 Report Posted June 29, 2015 Also interested in alternatives to the ribbon oem option.
turbocad6 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Posted July 8, 2015 I always assumed you couldn't extend this much at all, otherwise a longer ribbon would have been used long ago. it would be awesome to be wrong in that assumption though .
Alexander Mundy Posted July 13, 2015 Author Report Posted July 13, 2015 Can't find the FCI 59453-08211ECHLF zif socket in stock anywhere. I did find what looks like a compatible socket for the cable in a bottom contact with the FCI 59453-08111DCHLF http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=59453-081110EDHLFvirtualkey64910000virtualkey649-59453081110EDHLF . Was planning on putting 2 of these together back to back and using an FPC jumper cable such as the Molex 98266-0083 http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=98266-0083virtualkey98266-0083virtualkey538-98266-0083 to extend the display. I realize I will have to notch the ends of the cables for socket fit. Got some of the sockets and various lengths of cable in my Mouser cart. Could someone be so kind as to verify that the FCI 59453-08111DCHLF is compatible with the display cable?
John Posted July 16, 2015 Report Posted July 16, 2015 Yep, that will work fine. The notch is important, otherwise if you drop the device the cable can get jolted out, and nobody wants that. John
blueridgedog Posted August 12, 2015 Report Posted August 12, 2015 Mundy, if you find a set of parts that work, please post a definitive list so others can follow your path.
Guest Posted August 12, 2015 Report Posted August 12, 2015 blueridgedog said:Mundy, if you find a set of parts that work, please post a definitive list so others can follow your path.I bought the parts listed above the cables are long like 5" they do have shorter ones the parts do fit but haven't powered the device on to see if it's reading it
blueridgedog Posted August 12, 2015 Report Posted August 12, 2015 So you are going to solder two sockets together? Like to see it when done.
Guest Posted August 12, 2015 Report Posted August 12, 2015 blueridgedog said:So you are going to solder two sockets together? Like to see it when done. ill try to get it soderd this weekend and post a pic for you
Alexander Mundy Posted August 14, 2015 Author Report Posted August 14, 2015 I have various lengths and they do seem to fit although the ends are a little thicker. I haven't had time to cut the notches and solder sockets (which looks like a bear to do without a tiny board). Work is overwhelming right now so working long days 7 days a week.
Guest Posted August 14, 2015 Report Posted August 14, 2015 What a pain in the butt!!! The connectors are way to small for me to solder together with my iron, the solder likes to bridge I was able to solder it this way. It works. my boards will be here tomorrow I'll still post a pic of the screen working on the ribbon. I need to see about a high doller soldering iron
turbocad6 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 so it's working? what kind of length are you trying?
Willy Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 Laguz75,Take a look at this Hakko clone from Hobby King, (some links below) I got one recently and I'm very impressed with how well it works, cost me $25 shipped to New York from their North East USA warehouse. I picked up some more tips in assorted sizes, it comes with a very fine tip which would be great for those zif's, but you'll need a larger tip for wire 20 ga and above, you can get tips from amazon. Also there is a link to a youtube video showing side by side comparison to this station and a real Hakko, the guy opens the box and shows the insides of both of them. I was quite surprised just how heavy the unit is and it looks like they made a couple improvements since that video. The temperature control is very accurate, I checked it against my Fluke meter with a Fluke thermocouple, I didn't have to adjust mine but there is an adjustment for the temp if needed. For the price, it's a pretty good station and works very well, I soldered some 12 ga wires to a 200 board and the 510 a couple days ago and had no problems getting a very impressive solder joint, key was a larger tip that wouldn't cool as soon as it touched the joint, and good no clean flux. https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=19240http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KYVV9DMhttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AQARTRQ[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP0etU7mTwU[/video]
Guest Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 turbocad6 said:so it's working? what kind of length are you trying? I bought the wrong ones there like 5" but it looks like I can cut them down to the size I need. I am going to try soldering 24 gage wire on just to see if I can I might have a ideal for making a detachable face plate like some car stereos have. Once my boards come in that will be the real test. I have a 200 but the screen holder is glued on so I couldn't try out the ribbons.
Guest Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 Thanks willy I'll look at it in the morning I've been up sense 4:00am
turbocad6 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 so are you saying that the screen works fine with your 5" extension? you played with it a bit no glitches or anything? like you said would be really cool as a better quick disconnect than directly at the board with the ziff. using a ziff to pin adapter would open up a lot of possibilities with board installation too.
Guest Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 turbocad6 said:so are you saying that the screen works fine with your 5" extension? you played with it a bit no glitches or anything? like you said would be really cool as a better quick disconnect than directly at the board with the ziff. using a ziff to pin adapter would open up a lot of possibilities with board installation too. I'm waiting for my 40 and 200 to get here today (about 2pm cst) so I can try it out and see if it does work
blueridgedog Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 It would be amazing if there was a true extension cable rather than the parts to create one. The VS one has the screen in a "far away" place, so once we get a look inside, we may be able to source something.
retird Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 Think you may find the VS rdna40 uses standard screen/ribbon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__0hD-h0ufY
dwcraig1 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 I don't see any way the VaporShark DNA 200 can be done like they did the rDNA 40
retird Posted August 15, 2015 Report Posted August 15, 2015 Will be interesting what VS comes with. Maybe with no daughter board this time?
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