dwcraig1 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 I have done a hard reboot a number of times, I'm under the impression that the settings it keeps is the cold ohms from whatever atty was on it (soft). Yes/no? (plus all the other settings that are kept on a soft or hard reboot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillW50 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 VapingBad said:You could say user tries hard reboot and a fault reading the cell voltages appears, I don't see that it is connected to the puff counter. We have seen this fault a few times and it is just once (you in this thread) that the puff counter has been mentioned, I'm not sure that hard reboot is a common pre-condition either. You keep saying cause the puff counter to mess up like it is overwriting with some random number, it seems to me it just has the last value saved to the flash memory and the value in RAM was not saved, they have worked like this for the past 10 months. Sure that is not desirable and therefore a bug, but I don't believe it is any kind of software or hardware malfunction.As luck would have it, I have been logging the puff count on all of my DNA200s for months. I've been doing it because I wanted to see how much ml of juice I use per battery charge. Virtually everybody compares battery life to hours or days of vaping time per charge. That doesn't help others much, since everybody vapes differently. But knowing how much juice one uses per charge is far more useful to everybody. I didn't know if collecting the puff counter would be important or not, but I logged it anyway.So now I have all of these logs of ml used, battery voltages, and puff counts. Not once did the puff counter ever miss a single count in all of this time, even with battery swaps. It just never happened. But JaI Haze was seeing it. Not only on one, but even on a repaired one.It turns out that the puff counter in TC mode never screws up, even with zillions of battery swaps. It only starts to screw up if you are in wattage mode and then you swap batteries (something I never remember doing). Now not only does it revert to an earlier count, but now in TC mode the puff counter screws up the same way.Now and only now, a hard reboot will not revert your settings. Instead it loses the ability to read the cell voltages correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VapingBad Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 I can't recreate what you describe, it works as it always has done and how I have described on this thread, that doesn't mean you're observations are wrong, but it does mean they are not universal. On my rolo with temp limiting enabled I started at pc 20474, took 6 puff now pc 20480, soft reboot pc still 20480, took 5 more puffs, pc now 20485, did hard reboot and pc reverted to last saved value 20480 and battery cells read perfectly. So then I disable temp limiting pc still 20480 take 5 puffs, pc 20485, soft reboot settings preserved pc 20485, take another 5 puffs pc 20490 cells all 3.97 V, hard reboot pc as expected 20485 and all cells reading 3.97 V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillW50 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 You had the USB connected the whole time, didn't you? You didn't vape in wattage mode and then remove the batteries, did you?Once you did the above without USB power, now TC puff counter will reset once you remove the batteries. It never happened before in TC mode unless you do the above first.Now you connect it up to the USB and EScribe. Now do a hard reboot. Poof! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VapingBad Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 BillW50 said:You had the USB connected the whole time, didn't you? You didn't vape in wattage mode and then remove the batteries, did you?Once you did the above without USB power, now TC puff counter will reset once you remove the batteries. It never happened before in TC mode unless you do the above first.Now you connect it up to the USB and EScribe. Now do a hard reboot. Poof!Yes, you can't hard reboot without it connected to UBS, I was confirming the puff counter behaviour was the same with or without temp limiting enabled. So if I follow you it is just doing hard reboot after disconnecting and reconnecting the batteries while temp limiting is disabled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillW50 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 dwcraig1 said:Are you able to measure the voltage off the pads on the board that the balance connector attaches? Or at the balance connector. I assuming you made sure it's plugged on there good.Two 18650 charged to 4.09vGND = 0vPin 1 = 4.09vPin 2 = 8.18vPin 3 = 8.18vNo batteries on USB power onlyGND = 0vPin 1 = 0vPin 2 = 4.83vPin 3 = 4.83vScoped it and yes, it is a flat DC level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillW50 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 VapingBad said:Yes, you can't hard reboot without it connected to UBS, I was confirming the puff counter behaviour was the same with or without temp limiting enabled. So if I follow you it is just doing hard reboot after disconnecting and reconnecting the batteries while temp limiting is disabled?I am not sure if having the puff counter is important or not on the display. But JaI Haze and myself have it displayed.I couldn't get any of my DNA200s to mess up the puff counter while removing the batteries and putting them back in. I assume most DNA200s act this way while using TC.It only started happening once I vaped in wattage mode, then removed the batteries and putting them back in. Now the puff counter reverts to an earlier count.Now TC mode puff counter does exactly the same thing when you remove the batteries.So far, just the puff counter reverts and nothing else is wrong yet. But connect up to the USB and perform a hard reboot and now the DNA200 can't read cell voltages correctly anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcraig1 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 BillW50 said:Two 18650 charged to 4.09vGND = 0vPin 1 = 4.09vPin 2 = 8.18vPin 3 = 8.18vNo batteries on USB power onlyGND = 0vPin 1 = 0vPin 2 = 4.83vPin 3 = 4.83vScoped it and yes, it is a flat DC level. I see that is as it should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaI Haze Posted June 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 yeah when its plugged in when you swap batteries it is fine because its still got a current going on. Just like you can turn it on without batteries in it. But the problem is for people using wattage mode and it not reading correctly. I tested the TC thing as Bill is having issues and sure enough now I am experiencing the same problem as him. Keep in mind im only doing this on dna's where the battery or batteries come out. 75 and 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retird Posted October 11, 2018 Report Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Mcclurejacob said: Has anyone solved this problem yet? I have two 250c's a 166 and a 250 all are having this problem with resetting to a previous puff count after I remove batteries Can you post the Theme file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillW50 Posted October 13, 2018 Report Share Posted October 13, 2018 It occurs with any theme, take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkneovamp Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 I'm having the same issue with my Paranormal 250c. I was wondering why there was such a huge difference between my "Total Puffs" (8478) and my "Recorded Puff Number" (13239). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcclurejacob Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 I have no idea man.. my triade still doesn't record puffs right after everything I've tried. I'm thinking my chip is bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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