CarolMc Posted November 10, 2015 Author Report Posted November 10, 2015 Feel free to correct me but my understanding is escribe does not support DNA200's that utilize 3 18650 batteries. Will there be firmware/software support at some point?
Gm111 Posted November 10, 2015 Report Posted November 10, 2015 It does support lion, just designed around lipo.. just use li polymer 3 cell for 3 18650 and put say 2500mah for Samsung 25r & 11.1v too get your watt hours
CarolMc Posted November 10, 2015 Author Report Posted November 10, 2015 Gm111 said:It does support lion, just designed around lipo.. just use li polymer 3 cell for 3 18650 and put say 2500mah for Samsung 25r & 3.7v too get your watt hoursThank you for the clarification, happy to hear.
vaporholic Posted November 10, 2015 Report Posted November 10, 2015 ye i can confirm this works, just using my wisemen dna200 with escribe and works fine.
CarolMc Posted November 10, 2015 Author Report Posted November 10, 2015 Vaporholic,Appreciate your help...
Kahless Posted November 12, 2015 Report Posted November 12, 2015 As Xx3edge says it is based on the voltage of the cells in series (which is 11.1 volts) if you have 2500 batteries it should say 27.75 watt hours, or with the sony 2100mah batteries you get with the Reuleaux it should say 23.31 watt hours. Also it's best if you load in the csv file for a 18650 battery. All of this is for the accuracy of your battery meter by the way it does not effect how long the mod lasts for on 18650 or how it performs.
DannyK9 Posted November 12, 2015 Report Posted November 12, 2015 Xx3dge said:It's 2500 and 11.1v not 3.7Fresh of the charger they would be 2500 @ 12.6V Not 11.1V
UKDTweak Posted November 12, 2015 Report Posted November 12, 2015 @ DannyK9, for the Watt / Hour Calc you enter the Nominal voltage which is 11.1v.
CarolMc Posted November 12, 2015 Author Report Posted November 12, 2015 I havent received my unit yet but I've been reading through all the posts here for information. Also reading the escribe manual and becoming familiar with all the modules. I didn't realise I needed to download the csv. for 18650's so thanks for the additional information, and will I find the csv file here on the forum for the 18650's? Lots to learn but I enjoy it.
VapingBad Posted November 12, 2015 Report Posted November 12, 2015 You don't "need" as csv for your batteries just the correct Watt hours, a csv is desirable and will make you battery bar more accurate, but not essential.
CarolMc Posted November 12, 2015 Author Report Posted November 12, 2015 VapingBad, understood do you know where I get the .csv from? I prefer to have the meter show correct. Thank you- Cheers
Kahless Posted November 12, 2015 Report Posted November 12, 2015 You can get a csv file here for some LG 18650's which you can use as a rough guide csv file, better than using the standard one for a 3 cell lipo - https://forum.evolvapor.com/topic/66226-topic/
VapingBad Posted November 12, 2015 Report Posted November 12, 2015 Or generate them by running battery analyser.
CarolMc Posted November 12, 2015 Author Report Posted November 12, 2015 VapingBad said:Or generate them by running battery analyser.Understood, thanks
Gm111 Posted November 12, 2015 Report Posted November 12, 2015 Xx3dge said:It's 2500 and 11.1v not 3.7 Yes your right had a long day in work yesterday, my bad.. Edited post so no one gets confused.
PLANETGETLOW Posted November 15, 2015 Report Posted November 15, 2015 I struggled with setting up the battery parameters to display a correct battery life until i stumbled across a youtube video where he walks through setting up the Releaux through escribe. I left the battery type as lipo and 3 cells then just put 3000mah in using the calculator and it wound up calculating the right watt/hour which was around 33. Also need to run the case analyser but he already did that too so i used his numbers. Been using mainly temp control mode with titanium setup around 60watts,400 temp and its giving me about a solid 24 to 30 hours of battery life. I havent messed witb discharge rates, is that necessary? Also a HUGE A REQUEST for a mobile version. I have an LG tablet i take everywhere
Darthtanien Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 This is awesome that people take the time to post this stuff. Thank you. Escribe should have 18650's in the drop down. period. If it supports it should be in the software. Please add this.
VapingBad Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 Darthtanien said:This is awesome that people take the time to post this stuff. Thank you. Escribe should have 18650's in the drop down. period. If it supports it should be in the software. Please add this.It is not needed, they use all the same settings as 3 cell LiPo.
Darthtanien Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 IT IS needed. Maybe for you it is not but for many it is. Who would ever know to do that unless someone else just tried it. This has confused many people and winds up with people saying that the board is wrong or dosnt work. It would make life A lot easier for many people. Just look right above your comment and see that people needed to see someone on you tube set it up.
VapingBad Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 Darthtanien said:IT IS needed. Maybe for you it is not but for many it is. Who would ever know to do that unless someone else just tried it. This has confused many people and winds up with people saying that the board is wrong or dosnt work. It would make life A lot easier for many people. Just look right above your comment and see that people needed to see someone on you tube set it up.What 2 cell or 3 cell, is it really that hard?The only change I can possibly see to fit in with this is to change the text LiPo to Li-Ion to broaden the scope or maybe some explanatory text. Sorry if that comes over a bit unsympathetic, I do not mean to be so and understand that maybe some people get anxious about it, but it defaults to the settings for 3 18650s, changing to 2 is just changing the cell count and that's it. Either people need to change this because the mod maker has not set it correctly, which would be a problem or they made the mod themselves and then they should understand the settings, they are not there to play with.
Jvape78 Posted November 17, 2015 Report Posted November 17, 2015 I see both sides of this situation. With the booming popularity of the dna 200 it would probably be wise just so people that are not versed enough to know the difference can easily check the settings of their mod.it would likely save evolv a bunch of dumb emails also. .But the argument that the dna 200 is an advanced vaping device and shouldn't really be used by the type of vapers that wouldn't know the difference could also be strongly argued.
VapingBad Posted November 18, 2015 Report Posted November 18, 2015 It is a pity that this is concerning users when it shouldn't be, maybe it is because a few manufactures didn't set the capacity that people are worried some may incorrectly set the battery chemistry and cell count, I think that is extremely unlikely to happen and have not read that it has so far.
Darthtanien Posted November 18, 2015 Report Posted November 18, 2015 Jvape78 said:I see both sides of this situation. With the booming popularity of the dna 200 it would probably be wise just so people that are not versed enough to know the difference can easily check the settings of their mod.it would likely save evolv a bunch of dumb emails also. .But the argument that the dna 200 is an advanced vaping device and shouldn't really be used by the type of vapers that wouldn't know the difference could also be strongly argued. That is all I was saying. Some of the manufacturers have not bothered to do any setup on these devices. I get it. I know how to set it up but many do not. Lets try as a vape community to educate and make things easier not argue and put down. The more info there is the easier it is for new people and the better it is for the whole community.
VapingBad Posted November 18, 2015 Report Posted November 18, 2015 Let me try and reassure you a bit, the important setting from a safety point of view is the battery type, this should always be LiPo unless you know you have a LiFePo and I don't think anyone is selling mode with these in. If you choose LiFePo when it was another Lithium battery I think that it would only result in under-charging it and can't see any safety implications there, but am no expert. The opposite would be bad, but LiFePos are lot less violent than normal Li batteries if the go bad, but as I said I don't think anyone is shipping DNA200 with LifePos fitted. Essentially LiPos & 18650s are treated the same way & LiFePo operate a lower voltages. The power supply setting should not be used with batteries unless you do it at your own risk as it prevents most of the battery monitoring.I am not sure of the implications of choosing the wrong number of cells, but that setting would mainly be to turn off battery monitoring for the non-existent cell in a 2 cell set up, but I think it is very unlikely this would be set wrong.The battery capacity and curve are ther to make the battery bar more accurate and do not affect any of the battery safety features, so getting this wrong is only a usability issue IMO.I could be wrong on the small details, but I am pretty sure that what I have just typed is essentially correct.You have probably the best board in the business for battery monitoring and safety.
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