ckay1989 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 So I'm currently using 316L, .20 ohms dual coils, touching wrapped at 2.5mm in my Bellus RTA. Its working pretty well after using a custom CSV that a member posted to this forum can't really remember the name but I got it to work pretty well on my Efusiion.Was wondering how good SS430 is in comparison to the other SS wires. It looks like it has a better temp curve so I assume it would work pretty well for a TC wire. I went ahead and ordered a 30 foot spool of 24 gauge and another 30ft of 22 gauge SS430 from Crazy Wire Co over in the UK just out of curiosity, it was pretty cheap too, around $14.00 shipped. Any thoughts or experience with SS430? Please share your thoughts. I'll update as soon as I do a couple builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I got some SS430 and to be honest i had a better vape of it than SS316L and not much messing either.I used the 304 CSV of steam engine and changed the TCR in escribe to match SS430 and its been pretty good to be honest for me any way.Some one will be able to guide you in a better direction on here i hope Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckay1989 Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Well that's good news! Thanks for the reply Lance, it gives me hope in my never ending search for the perfect vape lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iteevision Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I did it today on 'the griffin'9 wraps 2.5mm dual SS430/awg24@0.15ohm and vaping@205°C@50WattMOD hcigar VT200 with csv for SS430 from Steam.pre-head setting 1, 1 and 0Vaping beautifully with stable vape en excellent taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckay1989 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Hell yeah build looks good man! Can't wait to get my 430 wire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeEgo Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I've got a spool of 28 gauge and it works well. It is certainly more accurate in TC mode than 316/317. I don't use it much, though, because I am leery of its durability. It isn't as corrosion resistant as the 300 grades.@Lance, why are you using the 304 .csv file for 430? Steam-engine has a 430 .csv file posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I put the 430 and 304 on from steam engine but found the 304 worked better for me.I still use 430 csv as well in a different profile but just switch between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Just got some 28g 430 and it is working well. My board just will not read 316l in TC. Using the 430 .csv from Steam Engine. On device monitor I can see a lot of temp corrections, but they are tight and not fluctuating wildly. Nice clean vape. Unkamen sent a 317l sample, will give that a try next. Ti is still my wire of choice but this is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black lace Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I couldnt get to gripps with it, i thought it may be down to me using the wire wizzard,, i tried NIFe30 the other day and inputted the csv and it works an absolute doddle, am realy impressed, ive condemed the spool of ss, and will try a reputable supply nexg time, like my NIfe30 vendor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeEgo Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Johan said:Just got some 28g 430 and it is working well. My board just will not read 316l in TC. Using the 430 .csv from Steam Engine. On device monitor I can see a lot of temp corrections, but they are tight and not fluctuating wildly. Nice clean vape. Unkamen sent a 317l sample, will give that a try next. Ti is still my wire of choice but this is pretty good. My board won't read 26 gauge 317L wire without jumping back to wattage mode. If I use dual coils, it reads it fine. It's strange. (317 is pretty much the same as 316 with a slightly lower TCR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Yeah, I just tried the 317l from Unkamen using the .csv from Steam Engine and the DNA 200 is just not reading it as TC wire. Oh well, I have other mods that do. Kind of odd though that it will read the 430 SS.On a side note, got some Ti from Unkamen and it works good with Jaquiths Titan wire .csv. Inexpensive, but dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeEgo Posted January 27, 2016 Report Share Posted January 27, 2016 Johan said:Yeah, I just tried the 317l from Unkamen using the .csv from Steam Engine and the DNA 200 is just not reading it as TC wire. Oh well, I have other mods that do. Kind of odd though that it will read the 430 SS.On a side note, got some Ti from Unkamen and it works good with Jaquiths Titan wire .csv. Inexpensive, but dirty. I am using a dual coil 26ga 317L build right now (.270 ohms). My board reads it fine, but it seems to go back into power mode if I make a single coil build. But in dual coil mode, it works great and seems pretty accurate using the default 317L .csv file from steam-engine.I would test it with my thermocouple, but it's very hard to get an accurate reading due to the fact the thermocouple end is made of metal and shorts the coil. And I haven't found something suitable to insulate the thermocouple without drastically affecting the accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 I don't know if I'm having a brain fart here or what. Had SS 430 working fine the other day, now stick that same rta on the VT200 and got a bad burn hit. Dual coil 28g 2.5mm i.d. 6 wrap. Preheat 1,1,0. Atty analyzer sitting steady at .31ohm. Ran device monitor and it doesn't want to run above approx. 325 degrees. On a long puff to get it above 325 it burns the crap out of me. Help.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spector NS5 RD Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Johan said:I don't know if I'm having a brain fart here or what. Had SS 430 working fine the other day, now stick that same rta on the VT200 and got a bad burn hit. Dual coil 28g 2.5mm i.d. 6 wrap. Preheat 1,1,0. Atty analyzer sitting steady at .31ohm. Ran device monitor and it doesn't want to run above approx. 325 degrees. On a long puff to get it above 325 it burns the crap out of me. Help....what happens when you input a TCR of .00138? that's the TCR for SS 430. your problem sounds to me, either your resting resistance is too high or too high of a TCR value. try the manual tcr number rather than a curve. it seems to be more accurate. also make sure your coils are spaced, not compressed/micro coils. make sure there are no hot spots by dry burning the coil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VapingBad Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 On the plot the cold res is 0.334 but you said AA reads 0.31, I would undo the atty and fire to force new coil and make sure it is 0.31. That extra cold res would cause the temp to be much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 I'll try that TCR instead of the steamengine .csv. The .31 on atty analyzer was a cold coil, in the screen shot it is no longer cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VapingBad Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Johan said:I'll try that TCR instead of the steamengine .csv. The .31 on atty analyzer was a cold coil, in the screen shot it is no longer cold.The lower purple line in the plot it is the cold res. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spector NS5 RD Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 Johan said:I'll try that TCR instead of the steamengine .csv. The .31 on atty analyzer was a cold coil, in the screen shot it is no longer cold.if you have a baseline resistance of .31 in atty analyzer your baseline res should be .334 in device mon. your cold ohms in atty analyzer should match what you see in device monitor for a baseline reading. do you have a loose connection somewhere atty, 510? try locking your ohms at.31 in atty analyzer (override and lock ohms). see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Sorry for the reply delay, and thank you for the suggestions. I was accused of cutting and running in another thread and not being able to admit any mistakes, but I actually have other interests (gf might choose to differ as of late) outside vaping that consume some of my time. Started from scratch again - made some new SS/Ni clapton wire, put a new build on a Griffin RTA, and I'll be dipped it worked. Then I hooked up to Escribe and now all I get is a line in front of the "F" when I fire it. Atty analyzer says .136 and settles out the that number if I screw it on and off. Device manager says .133, and I get nothing on the screen when I fire it except the static lines for the various boxes that are checked. Guess it's time to reinstall Escribe, hope I don't lose everthing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spector NS5 RD Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Johan said:Sorry for the reply delay, and thank you for the suggestions. I was accused of cutting and running in another thread and not being able to admit any mistakes, but I actually have other interests (gf might choose to differ as of late) outside vaping that consume some of my time. Started from scratch again - made some new SS/Ni clapton wire, put a new build on a Griffin RTA, and I'll be dipped it worked. Then I hooked up to Escribe and now all I get is a line in front of the "F" when I fire it. Atty analyzer says .136 and settles out the that number if I screw it on and off. Device manager says .133, and I get nothing on the screen when I fire it except the static lines for the various boxes that are checked. Guess it's time to reinstall Escribe, hope I don't lose everthing... what tcr/curve are u using for the ni/ss clapton build? you said you had it working in tc mode, then when you plugged into escribe it became non working? escribe shouldn't change anything on your device unless you connect and upload old/different settings that were for another atty setup. in atty analyzer your cold ohms is what is carried over to device mon. and is also shown on your mod's screen. cold ohms = base/resting resistance. what kinda atty? you're positive your connections are solid ie 510, post screws etc? maybe a screen shot of DV monitor will help out in determining what's going wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugeEgo Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Johan said:Sorry for the reply delay, and thank you for the suggestions. I was accused of cutting and running in another thread and not being able to admit any mistakes, but I actually have other interests (gf might choose to differ as of late) outside vaping that consume some of my time. Blasphemy. VapeBros before Hoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueridgedog Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I have to pay very close attention to the registered resistance of a mod when using "lowish" TCR value wires. If I know the build is .12 and it starts reading .13, .14 or worse, then I have to stop, move on to another atomizer and open that one and see what the issue is. 99% of the time, I simply tighten the grub screws and it falls back in line. Other times I have to pull the deck and clean it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sejouced Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 TCR of .00138 and its a fabulous wire to vape. Vaping beautifully with stable vape en excellent taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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