Lanzarotechris

Hi Martia Did you try another Atomizer on that device ? Did it work on it before ? I heared about some Atomizers that don't work sometimes on specific devices but work fine on others. Mabe bad connection on the 510 pin, some devices like a longer pin depending on the depth of the hole... if it is an adjustable pin maybe try screwing it a little more further out to get a better contact.

@asmcriminal Yes, I tried come "fancy" coils but ralized rather quickly that that was a waste of time (and power and liquid) ;-) But some "not so very fancy" coils are still interesting... like "simple" claptons, Tiger, twisted and so on... Saw some nice vids about coils too... learned that 2 strains of 0.2 are better than 1x 0.4 for example... But mostly I use 304 or 316 round wire... but I am still experimenting in that area... My typical vaping setup settled around 0.3-0.5 ohms and 30-50 watts, RDAs a little bit higher raund 50-60 watts. I look mainly for taste, clouds I don't care much about. Thats why I'm still unsatisfied with my attys... I really expect more out of them. Well, there are so many variables in that ... maybe its the coil, or the settings, or the wicking, or even the liquid... who knows ? About replay... try for yourself... use the monitor and see if you can create the same identical graph in replay... I doubt it... it will be always different. In TC you have a straight line for the Temp when puffing, in Wattage you have a straight line for the Watts, but in Replay its always different.

@asmcriminal I think you shouldn't have to quote my complete last entry 😉 Its just waste of space... maybe try to quote the details you're referring to instead ? I'm using a modified theme too... more control options, 1°C steps and so on... 0.1 steps is something I never understood why they implemented it in the first place... its just stupid 😄 But I started (like most people I guess) by using the mod "out of the box" so I didn't look what was activated and what was not... first error 🙂 Then I was a little confused as it worked very differently than my Therion DNA75, which I use most of the day (and since over a year). I thought they're supposed to be "equal" as they are from the same company... just that the new 250C would be more "sophisticated", but in general the same. But the vape was even with the same settings somewhat different. Then I got lost in the settings... And believe me, even something "simple" like having found a decent vape, and then activate/deactivate one single function can make a huge difference. So now I stopped to compare the 75 with the 250C, and started to set the values in a systematic way, so I can undo it. Looks like you really have to get used to the new device... I got the Triade just less than a month ago, so I am still working on the details I guess. But I think to open this posting was a good idea, as shure many people may struggle with the amount of different settings too. I switched to SS coils a while ago, as I love TC. Still get some dry hits when using a RDA on the non-TC mods (like my Desire 166 squonker) or when using a kanthal/Ni80 coil. But most of my atomizers are running SS now and I really see no negative point. Its fast, its nice to work with it and its cheap. For wicking I use muji pads, as they are easy to handle and to cut. No problems with them, they last quite long (depending on the liquid of course) and no "foreign" taste from it. But for some unknown reason I still get the best taste out of my first atomizer, the Aromamizer V1 (dual coil, 0.33 ohm with a SS304 0.4 mm round wire). Great throat-hit, great taste... which makes me wonder as I own also some quite expensive atomizers like the Tsunami GT3 and the GT4. Also a Das Tank Ding clone and a Corona V8 clone. But they all lack the great taste everyone labels on them. Maybe I didn't have found the right combination of coils/wicking/settings for them yet. Wasn't prepared to do a 2-year university degree on it... Well,... at least I have a hobby now *lol* Last words to your last part of your post: Replay is NOT temp mode. Its totally different I have learned. Watched some interesting YT vids about it, but the most informative was in german, so sorry... Well, the guy compared some puffs in the device monitor to proof it... and he's right. To make it short,... noone even can properly explain what replay does. You may know this YT guy called DJlsbvape or so.... he used an oscilloscope and couldn't explain it, and he's quite good in the field of electronics. Replay measures the resistance from the batteries, the cables, the chip and the 510, and adjusts the output accordingly to the saved puff and that a few dozen times per second... there are some "hidden" settings in escribe where you can acutally see the "background noise" and even that goes into the calculations. And the measurement is up to the 8th digit behind the dot ! So its really really sophisticated ! Temp control on the other hand is just a simple graph of the change of the ohms when the metal is getting warmer. Thats all known values and simple to implement. But replay is not only another ball park, its another game completely. When it would be the same, then replay wouldn't work only in TC but not in wattage mode, right ? Yes, it only works with temp coils, but it can even work with Ni80 ! And I never got a Ni80 coil that would be accepted in TC mode on any of my devices. Also mixed material coils work with replay, like SS316 wrapped with kanthal. I just wish the next improvement will be TC for kanthal 😉 That would be great ! Don't know why they didn't have implemented it yet, but when the chip already calculates with 8 digits it should be possible... Well,... we will see... maybe in the next version of the DNA250... ???

So, its a mesh tank, do you use mesh as coils or do you have wire coils in it ? And you have ss316 with 0.112 ohms. Question is, is it mesh or (dual-)coil ? (because you say coils)... If its mesh then you need a higher wattage, as there is so much cotton in between (I have an Iris Mesh RDA, so I know about that problem). Not shure what happens when you record replay with 35 Watts and then raise it to 75... could be that replay will ignore the higher wattage because it will re-create the recorded puff with 35 watts ? Maybe switch it off, then do some puffs (with fresh juiced coils) with the 50 watts you use in the moment and then re-activate replay. I also found out that replay and TC are not great in working together, as the different goals (keep the temp vs. keep the last puff) are confusing the replay function working properly. So, try to get a good puff in wattage mode, then activate replay. And pls post the info about what coil(s) you are using. That's quite important to find a solution. BTW: Also it can help if you can mention some details about your experience in vaping in general (as you talked about another mod that only uses temp.) How long do you vape, build coils, etc... so we can get a better picture. A pro pos picture... if you have one of the coils maybe... 😉 Everything that can help finding a solution... settings etc... screenshot... Thanks !

@asmcriminal I thought I mentioned it somewhere... quite in the beginning of this entry. When I activate different functions (preheat/boost/punch/TC/...) the vape changes so it is "not worth" to be re-played. And yes, the different functions and their playing together is indeed confusing. Especially when: a) you don't know what they do, b) there is no "real" value (like watt or temp) to them but only some kind of bar and/or value from 1-11, who noone does know what it means either. so... my thought was to get this explained so I can make (at least) an educated guess what will happen when I change value "X". BTW: Today I found out that REPLAY is quite sophisticated in the way it measures and works. There even is a "hidden" function in escribe which shows some additional values, and makes some additional settings available. I think I will not go further into it here, as it is complicated enough. Maybe I can tell more when I get to the bottom of it, so I don't tell shit about stuff I don't understand yet. In the moment I try out some ideas that I got here from the forum-members (thanks again to all for the tips and explanations so far). It looks fine so far, I also have to make some new coils for some atomizers (learned more in-depth about that too over the last days) so I am still working to improve my vaping experience. But to answer your question: Hard to say... mostly the taste gets "flat" and I have to raise the wattage (or preheat or boost...), or its too hot and boils my liquid, and when I fiddle with the settings I get lost and all was for nothing, and then there is nothing to save and re-play. As I said,... too many options with unknown effects. With my "old" mods like Therion DNA75 (without the C) or the Reuleaux 300 or the eVic AIO 75 I have max. 2 settings to keep track of: Watts and/or Temp. With the new DNA250C I have Watts, Temp, Boost, Punch, Warmth, and what else there is... And that made me a little bit P/O, as I am not a bloody newbie, but its hard to understand it when there is no documentation or explanation for some settings/values. But we're getting there, that's for shure ;-) (NEVER give up ! ;-) So, thanks for joining the conversation ! What are your experiences ? At which point do you get lost ?

I struggle with the different settings too,... maybe you read this post and join the conversation ? https://forum.evolvapor.com/topic/70412-how-to-set-up-a-dna-properly/ Seems like the same problem we are already discussing there...

Thats what I like to archieve too. But I am not yet at the point where I can record and re-play that perfect vape. It's still work in progress. I really like to get to the point of "fire and forget"... but for that I first have to find the right settings. That's why this post is not called "How to set up replay properly". I still fight with the other settings. Replay is at the end of that process. But interesting that people still bring it up, even when the discussion is about the way to get there, to get that great vape that is worth to replay it over and over again. Its not correct to say replay does everything for you... You still have to find the right settings and then you can record that puff to replay it. And then of course there are people who don't care and just want to vape and don't look for details how to refine it. OK, some people also don't care about the food they eat. I do, and then you always end up in details and nuances and things get complicated or technical. I don't care about the hussle, I like to archieve the optimum. Not only in vaping, but in general. When there is a possibility to make something better, I like to at least try it. Does everyone have to do it ? No. But I think I am not the only one who don't likes things "standard" or they way they are when you get them "out of the box". If it can be better with the available resources, why not go for it ? And if the tool/device has many options to manipulate settings, I try to get the best out of it ! That of course includes a lot of time, trying, rebuilding, re-setting, reading, understanding, questions and trying again and again. Otherwise I would use a 5,-€ one-way vaping device from the gas-station and not a 150,-€ mod and some 130,-€ atomizers.

And I want a perfect vape 😉 I guess that's the little differences in life... It's like cooking. You can just throw anyting into a pot, or you can take a little more time and do it perfectly. The result can be a big difference. But when it is ok for you, don't bother. Noone will force you to do something. Have a nice vape ! 😉

Hast du mal "bottomfeeder" in das such-feld oben rechts eingegeben ?

you're absolutely right ;-) But to elevate you to our level of discussion,... we were talking about the effects of TC, Preheat, Boost and Punch and some other options which changed the outcome of that vape.

Ok, got that, thanks 😉 I use some theme from this webpage... dunno the name, let me check... Clean-Color-Black-ONE-WATT-2_4.ecigtheme ... which is quite detailed. On the REPLAY tab I have switches for: Available, Ready and Active, and a slider for Warmth. On the PREHEAT tab I have a switch for Enable, a Power setting in Watts, a Target Temp setting in °C, and a Preheat/Punch slider. Sorry, my mistake that I did not mentioned that I don't use the basic/standard theme.

hehe, THAT never will work with me,... I have a special sense for little details 😉 But if you have said something like it is calibration related I could live with that. But I guess I should try stop comparing the DNA75 with the new C-models. (But it was so easy to handle and to set up... still my favourite, except for the battery problem) https://forum.evolvapor.com/topic/70404-therion-dna75-outer-battery-not-discharging-how-to-fix-it/ And what about the slow monitor software ? any thoughts on that ? Until the version before, it was flawless... Got a ubuntu upgrade too last week, but as the windows version is also laggy, that could not be the reason. It just stops measuring after a minute or so, and then I have to wait for 1 or 2, and then it stops again after a couple of minutes... Hard to work with, as I have to constantly wait for the right moment to make the puff... About the "about me" page.. its in your profile... on the main page you get the activity view and on top of it there is a 2nd "tab" called "about me". I filled it out right after the registration, but it seems noone can see it, which is a little bit silly, right ? With a right-click on it I get this link : https://forum.evolvapor.com/profile/211019-lanzarotechris/?tab=field_core_pfield_1 looks like this:

One last thing about the device monitor: Since I got the latest versino installed its so slow and stuck always. I have literally wait for a minute or 2 for it to un-freeze. I run it primarily on latest ubuntu linux, but also have a parallel installation on WIN8.1, and both behave the same. Its quite un-usable this way ! Any fixes on the way or any work-arounds ? Also the readings on the same atty are different when connected with my DNA75 or the DNA250. The ohms are not identical for example (0,182 vs 0,174)

@Chris Musampa Thank you chris, that sounds promising ! I will try that this weekend and will come back to you with my conclusions. Only detail I am missing: What are the ohms that your setup is comming out with ? You forgot to mention that 😉 I normally build around 0,3 ohms and vape around 30-50 watts, depending on atty, mod, juice and mood 😉 My hardware is: 1x18650 mod 75 W, a dual cell Therion DNA75, a Reuleaux RX300 (4x18650) a Desire 166 squonk mod (2x18650) and now the Triade DNA250C. From the atty side: 2x single coil RTA, 5x dual coil RTA, 3x dual coil RDA, 1x mesh RDA and on transit from china is another dual coil RDA and a single coil RDA. So I guess I am quite flexible what I can set up 😉 My main interest is in flavour, not in clouds (I guess I'm too old for that kiddy stuff) 😉 As I said, I will try all tips I got here this weekend. Thanks again for your help ! Have a nice day !!!

@Wayneo I will try this on the weekend. If it works then its the answer I was looking for... a simple systematic way to set new coils/attys up ! Wasn't my plan to complicate things. But I wonder why this kind of answer wasn't given from the beginning ? BTW: As I was clicking around in the preheat section, I discovered that sometimes I can change the preheat temp and sometimes I can not. Can't remember exactly what the circumstances were, but I will keep an eye open if it happens again. Any idea to that ? BTW2: What is this related to ? Which terms did I use wrong ? (not that I want to excuse for being a foreigner, but you never finish learning something new, right ?) And I always try to explain things as detailed as possible to prevent confusion and missunderstandings...

Thanks a lot... I was really missing the 2nd setting as I use an external charger. Any idea why the different curves on the monitor, or why the ohms are different ? Like I said: same atty, same settings, only different mod (DNA75 vs. DNA250C). The ohms should be identical, right ? (and yes, I have had let them cool down) BTW: just a thing about the forum navigation... where can I and others see my "About Me" page ? I can't see it if I don't log in (external visitor like), but I can also noone's page too (I chaecked a few members pages and there is no lik to "About Me". Is it only for the staff or what is its function ? I thought it would appear for at least forum-members who are interested and visit my profile page.

@retird yes, I am frustrated,... I have never had so much trouble with a mod. And adding to that that noone seems to be able to explain the idea and/or the function behind some settings/values doesn't make it easier for me to find a proper (and reproducable) way to set it up. I worked over 15 years in customer service for computers (hard- and software) and if this product would be in my department I would kick the ass of the guy who built it 😉 Or as I always say: Keep it user-friendly, keep it simple, so everyone understands it ! Some products try to be a (as we in germany say:) a egg-legin wool-milk-pig... (like trying to put as much functions and settings into one piece of hard/software as possible...) But I think that is the wrong way to do things. Point is: I was (and still am) so happy about my Therion DNA75, and even I love my eVic AIO, because they just work, and if the vape is not good, there are only 3 settings to tweak to make it good. But this ... monster... how can you expect people to be happy about it when they have to guess and try to get even an exceptable vape out of it ? I even can imagine if someone buys this thing and get to the point of frustration where I am now, they put it into the closet and start smoking again. Because smoking cigs is much more simpler ! Nothing to fiddle around, just put it into your mouth and light it up ! And THAT should not be a valid solution don't you think ? So from that point of view this product is really not how it should be. And if someone now says "yeah, but its a sophisticated product for experienced vapers who know what to do with it" then I must reply, that that was never in any ad, or any YT video ... they all just told me that replay is soooo simple because it does everything automatically for you ! Well,... maybe one day I will get to the point where I can finally activate the replay function because I finally got the vape I like to re-play ! Until now I am still searching for it... @Wayneo Sorry, but I thought I mentioned it before: So,... Wattage Mode works fine (like any other mod), but when I activate TC, the taste gets flat, so I have to raise the Wattage to get the same result as without TC. When I think its ok, I activate Replay, and then the result changes again (I guess because of Boost/Punch/Bar) settings... and I have to re-set and to re-adjust again and again... and that is not only frustrating and a waste of time, but also user-unfriendly and confusing. And compared to the Therion DNA75 or even the cheap eVic AIO (40,-€) its quite unacceptable to be frank. And now I prefer to vape on my old/cheap devices, as I can not get the same nice vape out of the sophisticated and expensive Triade DNA250C. So I decided to post this request here to get some help, because I thought maybe I do something wrong, ... but now it seems like maybe its not my fault. I don't know how many users have the same negative experience (and for a forum its quite quiet here, sadly... I wish there would be more activity and maybe some people who agree or disagree, so there would be some "transfer of knowledge" between users) or at least can tell me how to proceed. Some 20-30 years ago this post would be flooding with replies... well... ain't that times anymore I guess. I started with the same settings like on the Therion DNA75, as I thought they are both DNA devices, so that is a good point to start from. But that seems not to be the case... so there is no consistency at all. That and the fact that I own now 5 mods and 11 attys (and 2 more are on the way from china) makes me think that the Triade DNA250C is by far the worst buy I made for all vape gear. Unless I may find a solution for my problems... maybe here,... maybe by trying another week with different settings,... I don't know. But I don't want to give up. Not only because of the money I spent on it (and won't get back) but also because I am a technician and think I handled some more difficult machines before. But to master it it would be very helpful to know what it does, right ? And here the circle to my first post is complete 😉

Now we get to my point... I quoted some of your comments, as that is exactly what I "complain" about... there are so many options, and, like I said in my first post, I try tweaking here, change setting there, ... since 1 f**king week, but I still can not find "THE" one setting that I am looking for. I agree that there might be different ways to get to the point, but I can not find it by trying here and there without a plan. Until now its just a waste of time, and I am not closer to my target as I was 1 week before. Like I said, on a "simple" mod there are 3 "screws" where I can adjust, power, temp and preheat. That is something I can scope with and keep track of. But with this I have like 10 screws, and for some of them there isn't a clear description what they actually do, so how am I supposed to know what I am doing right now ??? It feels like a car with 3 steering wheels... where it should have only one (if you know what I mean). So, is there some kind of "ruleset" or masterplan which I can follow to get what I want ? Or do I really need a certificate to use this ? Then Evolvapor should probably put a Info into their ads that this product needs a special license to use 😉 Back to my request: I KNOW what MATERIAL I use, what OHMS the coil has, and I can tell more or less precise what WATTAGE I will run it. I also can say that I need (or need not) PREHEAT and can give an estimate percentage of that (like in my example in the first post...) THAT'S IT ! That's my facts I know ! Material, Ohms, Watts, and Preheat. But BOOST, PUNCH and some of the other settings are UNKNOWN... so how should I know what they change if I just have no "data" or just a bar without any reference what it actually tells ??? Its fu**ing guesswork, and its not working for me. For example: In the preheat settings I have a Wattage (additional to my main wattage setting) a Temp. (also, additional to my main Temp. setting, and a Preheat/Punch bar)... WTF ??? I guess not even you can tell me in what relationship they are to each other and to my main settings... Do you get the point ? Its not user-friendly, its a mess ! Settings without values and no clear definition ! Who designs such a **** ? Sorry for my bluntness, but some things really p*ss me off, and if companies tell me "hey Replay is great, it makes things sooo much easier, blablabla..." but then there are 20 different functions they don't tell you about, but that you have to find out by yourself before saving "the perfect vape" to REPLY it over and over again... and I wasted already much more time than I needed to learn building coils, then NO, its not a great device which makes things easier ! And now you tell me: ...people do it differently,.... bla,... folks have different ways,... blabla,.... just adjust it til you get what you want... bla...adjust preheat, boost, warmth, or whichever function you need...bla So in short: You have no idea ! Noone has apparently, otherwise someone could explain it ! ... thank you very much ! But as I am a positive thinking guy, and this is an open forum, where everybody can jump in,... PLEASE DO SO ! Where is that one person who can tell me what to do (or what you guys do,... ) Or alternatively I like to get some other users to confirm that they all have no clue and do just guessing and trying with different settings and by chance one day they find the combination of settings that produce an acceptable vape (wich of course is still not "THE" greatest vape, but they are also sick of try-guessing so they leave it at the acceptable-level before waisting more time on it).

I think you misunderstood my question. I am not looking for a review or walk through the menu, and I know what the replay mode does (more or less). What I am looking for is a description about how to set up a coil X from scratch. In which sequence do I set the settings ? First preheat and then replay ? Or first boost and then punch ? Or the other way around ? Or which setting do I have to change when the result is not successful ? Do I change the wattage or the boost or the punch or the bar of the replay ??? The reviews I already watched before I bought that device... AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO "YELL" ... I can read small letters just fine ;-) And yes, there are a lot of videos out there,... so hey, maybe we can close this forum for good because every question is already answered somewhere on YT ? I don't think everything is well explained on youtube... because like most "social" media, it lacks in depth... and THAT'S why there are forums like this... for the people who have detailed questions that are not answered in the superficial world (like a forum with a 140 characters max. for an entry would be stupid too). At least that is what I thought until now... maybe I am wrong. If you manage your DNA as well as it sounds, maybe you can explain to me why I have difficulties to do so... and what I do wrong. That would be helpful.

Hi guys and gals, As I struggle with the different options on my Triade DNA250C, and seem to get lost in the settings, maybe someone (from the evolv staff maybe) can explain it so every customer can act accordingly to get the best vape out of it. --- Maybe we can use an example like this: I use a SS316L fused clapton wire (24GA*2 +32GA) on a single coil setup. It came out with 0,87 ohms. Its actually running with 30 watts now. --- On a "simple" mod I set it to 30 watts and that's it. Probably I will add some preheat as the coil is quite slow because of its mass (let's say 50% more power for 1 sek.) If I want to use TC I change the watt/power mode to TC SS316L. Then I choose a decent temp (maybe related to the liquid I will use in the atomizer, as different flavours react at different temps) let's say 235°C. --- That is my basic setup until now... I can raise or lower the wattage if it is too cold or too hot, I can raise/lower the preheat if the first puff is not decent, and I can adjust the temp setting when in TC accordingly to the liquid to get the taste I like. --- But now I have the Triade DNA250C, wich gives me much more options, like REPLAY, BOOST and/or PUNCH (and then with or without them of course), some with temp settings, other with a bar, another with both of them. Then I also have even more options when using escribe. --- How do I set it up correctly to get a decent vape, because when I change one of the many settings, the result is sometimes quite different (and problably influences the other settings I already made). I normally love to have different options to get things done, but when it is getting too much, and one option changes the result drastically, so you have to manipulate the other options to "fix" it, then it is not what I would call "user friendly" anymore. I changed different settings/values and it is either too cold or too hot or does not taste well, and I have no idea why or which specific setting/value is not right. --- So someone at the manufacturer did probably put some thought into it, and had some general way to do things, but that part is missing in the maual 😉 I also don't want to spend hours to set up a coil to get a decent vape out of it. --- But as my different approaches to that were not successful yet (and I change settings continously for about a week now !), I really like to get some help (and I am shure some other people have or will have the same problem one day) how I can do this in a systematic way, so I can do this over and over again with every coil/atomizer I own. Thank you in advance for your help !

I still struggle with the REPLAY mode. Yesterday for example I tried my new atomizers (a Das Ding clone and a Corona V8 clone) with my Triade DNA250C and with my old Therion DNA75. On the DNA75 I used them both on Wattage and TC mode, on the DNA250C I used both on REPLAY and TC mode. Result: In Wattage and/or TC Mode on the DNA75 the taste is much better. More crisp and more flavour. In REPLAY mode it tastes flat... I also have to raise the Wattage and Temp to get even near a god taste. When I compare them both on the same Wattage (40 W) and Temp (235°C) there is a big difference in taste (and clouds, for which I don't really care, but it is noticeable). The coils are on both atomizers simple dual SS304 round material (0,4 mm) and the Ohms are around 0,2 and 0,3. I even used the same liquid, which is a fruity stuff (VG70/PG30). It's really frustrating, as I expected much more taste from these atomizers, especially as they are both told to be something "special" in relation to flavour. Did not have the time yet to compare both mods on the monitor, but will try soon. But I watched something like 10 wicking videos yesterday and it seems I did nothing wrong in that area. Any ideas what I can try to get better taste out of them ? In comaprison to the new atomizers I have no problems whatever when I use my Tsunami GT III or GT IV on both mods. They taste both great, but I can go about 10 Watts lower on the DNA75 (50 W with TC enabled) to get the same vape as from the DNA250C (60 W with TC and REPLAY enabled) on a single SS304 round wire with 0,17 Ohms). Both are set to 210 °C and the DNA 250C is set to no Preheat and the REPLAY is set to minimum warmth, no punch. I compare them with identical settings with the Tsunami GT IV (single coil, SS304 round material, spaced) @ 210 °C, 70 Watts, no Preheat, no Punch, Replay set to minimum warmth. The only obvious difference I see (despite the different curves they produce) is the difference in the measured Ohms (0,174 vs. 0,182). There is also a huge effect in comparison to the last escribe version, as the new one is sooooo slow, even the monitor is stopping at some point without reason. I have to wait for even a minute to get it running. I also recognized that the 2 mods have different screens in the settings... for example I can not see (or measure) the Ohms on the DNA75 as you see on the pics. Why is that so different ? I don't think that it should matter which DNA I connect to have the same GUI and settings/possibilities/values. There should also be no difference when I use the same settings for the same atomizer to (re-)produce the same vape. Or as someone yesterday in a wick video said: I am a customer, and you can not expect that everyone is a trained technician or electrician, to use these devices (which by the way I am, and even I struggle with it!). EVERYONE can buy them, so the target should be that also EVERYONE should get a decent vape out of them regardless of his knowledge. Right out of the box I should say. Without needing a master certificate to handle them properly. Companies (not only Evolvapour, but also the atomizer manufacturer, mod manufacturer, etc.) should think a moment about this... as the target should be EVERY smoker in the world. Regardless how sophisticated or intelligent he is in handling these devices. Just thinking... I also can not deactivate the battery charging on the DNA250C (which is useful when On the DNA75 I can under the battery options I can set the tick to "This mod uses an external battery charger". On the DNA250C this is missing. Instead I have a dropdown field to choose the charging mode, which also lacks the option to choose an external charger. At least you should be consistent with the options when you make a software that supports different mods/models.

Really ? Even when the max. Temp of a DNA250C says 600°F ? (according to the manual) How does that work ? Sounds dangerous even... especially for a new vaper/user without any experience or knowledge.

@retird Thanks a lot my friend ! I will study the videos this weekend and see if I can handle it...

Things got finally sorted out with huge thanks to Vandy Vape Support Team. In the end the problem seems to be my coil, as we did some tests with a single 10 cm loop. After that I made 2 new coils in 2 different atomizers, and TC and REPLAY worked fine. So it was not the wire and not the Triade 205C which caused the problem, but my coil. We did not discover what exactly was the problem with it, but as I said, as soon as I made new builds, the problem was gone. But I still wonder what it was... so I don't do the same mistake again.

Hi, I have a Therion DNA75 and since a while I discovered that the outer battery (the one you put in last) is not discharging. So I only can use the mod with 1 battery now. My question is, is it fixable ? Is it difficult to do, or do I need special tools for that ? I still love that mod and it was not cheap when I bought it, so I like to get it fixed. I am an IT-System Electronics by profession, so I think I can handle some wire fixing if that is the problem. Also, is there any information out there how to open/disassemble that thing to get to the needed area ? Maybe some graphics/manuals ? Thanks in advance for any help on that !