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Early Firmware and EScribe Suite Discussion Thread
Viruk replied to David Campbell's topic in EScribe, Software and Firmware
James - as per my previous comment - I don't think the speed change makes sense when on a low (0.1/0.2) "watts hold increment", however when on 1w it makes much more sense and feels good. Both options work well - as long as the correct increment is selected for the setting. For me, the old method and a low increment worked well - but the new method and the higher increment is way better for large changes in wattage. Personally, I only changed to 0.2W increment to stop the wattage flying up or down at great speed; but I think I probably prefer the step down in speed and using 1w increment. Is it possible to get a setting in escribe to enable/disable that speed adjustment? Not an issue for me - but could be nice to have the option if it isn't hard (or problematic) to implement -
Early Firmware and EScribe Suite Discussion Thread
Viruk replied to David Campbell's topic in EScribe, Software and Firmware
dl12345 while point 3 shows that there was a change to behaviour, my observations didn't match the description. However having looked at it again, I'd previously changed the "watts hold increment" setting to 0.2 (down from 1) to compensate for the huge ramp up in scroll speed. The consequence of this setting is the scroll speed gets quicker, then slows down then picks back up again - which as a first impression was a strange observation. I've now tried changing the "watts hold increment" back to 1 and the slowing down of the scroll speed makes much more sense as the increment is much larger and the result is much more "natural". -
Early Firmware and EScribe Suite Discussion Thread
Viruk replied to David Campbell's topic in EScribe, Software and Firmware
thanks for the info blueridgedog has anyone else noticed the slowdown in wattage scroll speed? I noticed this after I applied the 2016-02-23 f/w -
for dripping I'm mainly using 2 velocity RDAs, I have a phenotype-l but I find I get too much spit back (although that could be the build - fused Clapton nichrome/kanthal at about 0.18 - might try something less "rowdy"!) +1 with the GeekVape Tsunami - that's looking really nice. what impact do you think the TPD is going to have? I thought that liquids were going to be the most affected area - but I am curious what's likely to happen with mods/RDAs... There was that point about tanks being leak proof - do you think that's going to finish the RDA/RTA market?
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I would have thought the default settings when you open the box would be a good starting point for you, you can then start tweaking things from there. For a nickel coil, you obviously want a profile with Nickel 200 selected; but beyond that you'll have to experiment to find out what works for you - everyone likes something a little different. The benefit of a chip like the DNA 200 is that you can get this set up the way you like it rather than a generic setup. There's so little to worry about once you have the profile open you'll be up and running the way you like it in no time. Ask away if you have questions about any of the settings - but you'd need to deal with those even if you had a file generated by someone else anyway.
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Early Firmware and EScribe Suite Discussion Thread
Viruk replied to David Campbell's topic in EScribe, Software and Firmware
Currently running EScribe 1.0.42 with f/w 2016-02-23 Two points here: 1. there appears to be a bug in the current firmware I'm running, when scrolling through wattage the speed that the wattage changes drops significantly just after the first "step-up" in scroll speed. Has anyone else noticed this? 2. I've just downloaded the latest version which I expected to contain f/w 2016-02-29 however I'm not offered any update for the device. There is no new f/w in the install location, only the version I'm currently running (and a couple of older versions). Am I missing something obvious here? -
Sweet Spot Vapors Titanium Wire - question
Viruk replied to liquid_strat's topic in General Discussion
blueridgedog thanks for your thoughts on the SSV wire VapingBad thanks very much for the recommendation - I'll check them out once I'm back in the UK -
Sweet Spot Vapors Titanium Wire - question
Viruk replied to liquid_strat's topic in General Discussion
Thanks for taking the time to respond HugeEgo Just one last comment on your final point: [CODE] Grade 1 is the purest commercially available and thus it will be the closest to the TCR values found in scientific literature for pure titanium. [/CODE] That makes perfect sense when comparing with titanium without a dedicated csv, but the point I'm interested in is whether SSV's csv really works nicely with their wire and whether it does make any discernable difference to the vaping experience when compared to grade 1 titanium. The value question (while very valid) isn't my main point of interest (yet!). If SSV have got a wire that's really good for vaping in terms of temp control, flavour, durability then it could be possible that to some users the premium price is worth it - I'm curious about the comparison between the wires for the moment... Titanium wire hasn't been easy for me to find so I'm not sure about the price comparison for myself, I may try to find some while I'm in Canada (one more week but I'm in a small town in the mountains). I actually found SSV wire in the UK and while it wasn't cheap, it cost less than a pack of cigarettes so I took a gamble on it - I've yet to try it. I will keep looking for some grade 1 titanium to compare the SSV wire - but I'm always looking for opinions and experiences of others. -
Sweet Spot Vapors Titanium Wire - question
Viruk replied to liquid_strat's topic in General Discussion
HugeEgo - I have a couple of questions about your response... First - why would it matter what grade it is? As far as I'm aware, the grading isn't based on applicability for vaping; wouldn't a more suitable question be: is the SSV wire better or worse for the properties we require for vaping than a grade Ti 1 alternative? Secondly - why don't you think its worth the money? How did you compare SSV Ti wire and grade 1 Ti wire? What was different about their performance and why did you prefer grade 1? I'm not trying to pick fault in your answer - I'm just trying to understand how/why you came to the conclusion you stated -
I'll try to take a screenshot later if I can, my attempts at TC with SS are with the Triton 0.4 ohm coils - those are 316L. I used the csv from steam-engine. It kind of worked, but the temp wasn't stable at all. The temp graph jumped about all over the place and the vape was much weaker than when vaping in power mode at the recommended wattage so I just ended up switching back to power mode on those coils. Just an update on my own experience of TC on SS which may be of interest here... update - can't post screenshots yet as my 0.4 ohm SS coils are on the other side of the Atlantic, if I can pick up some coils locally I'll do this and post
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your numbers will be slightly different, but it should look something like this: If you use the calculator you need to use these values: you should then get this screen: click yes and you'll be set For 3000 mAh batteries then 33.3 watt-hours seems correct
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Did you set the battery capacity in escribe on the Mod tab? If you haven't, try the following: go to the mod tab in eScribe click the Watt-Hour calculator button in the battery cell capacity, choose the mAh rating of your battery (individual - probably between 2000-3000 for an 18650) use 11.1 for your nominal pack voltage click ok a pop up will appear with a value for your battery capacity - choose yes to use this value Check if that makes a difference
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Feature Request - Watts/Temp Accelerator Adjustment
Viruk replied to Jeepster67's topic in EScribe, Software and Firmware
I'd also like to see this feature. I'm just about to experiment with the "watts hold" increment and see if that mitigates the acceleration... -
Sweet Spot Vapor Ti - Why the radically different curve for 0.4mm?
Viruk replied to teilo's topic in General Discussion
you need the commas (,) in a csv (comma separated values) file... Try the following if you're going to copy and paste into something like notepad and remember to save it as filename.csv (filename can be anything you like ) If you're using excel (or any other spreadsheet) it should add these in for you when saving as csv - as long as the data is in different cells. Once you have a file saved you should then be able to upload via escribe "Temperature (degF)","Electrical Resistivity" -58,0.65 68,1 212,1.16 302,1.56 392,1.66 482,1.81 572,1.987 800,2.665 -
Sweet Spot Vapor Ti - Why the radically different curve for 0.4mm?
Viruk replied to teilo's topic in General Discussion
I can't remember where, but I've read somewhere that the SSV file for 0.4mm wire didn't work too well but I've read the 0.5mm file works well for both those wires. I have some 0.5mm SSV titanium but haven't tried it out yet - I'll try to post some results here when I do build with it. Johan - if all else fails you could just copy the contents of the file here, then anyone who needs it only has to copy and paste the text into notepad (or any preferred text editor), save it as a csv then upload to the device via escribe... -
I appreciate your efforts VapingBad - I realise that a certain amount of the moderation here is on a volunteer basis and at some point new members have to be approved on trust. Are there any anti-spam plugins or modules available to help with this?
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The latest batch of forum spam is from an account that is only listed as being created yesterday - the following is a copy and paste of the profile information: General Information Member Title:Junior MemberName:asdaLocation:fdsss What DNA 200 product do you own or plan to buy?yes Account Information Date Registered:YesterdayOnline Status:Online! Total Posts:24 (23.17 posts per day)Find Posts:Find all posts by janus00 Find all topics started by janus00Last Post:6 minutes agoLast visit:20 minutes ago Maybe the approval process needs tightening a little?
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Ti turning white in TC mode
Viruk replied to DutchErt3's topic in Connectors, Components, and Accessories
The Sweet Spot Vapors TCR isn't for pure titanium - I believe its some sort of alloy. I'd try a TCR from steam engine (http://www.steam-engine.org/wirewiz.asp#) I just got this from there which may be a little better for you. You can download it for yourself or copy and paste the following and save as a csv to upload. "Temperature (degF)","Electrical Resistivity" -58,0.6118951675 68,1 212,1.2923387095 302,1.475302419 392,1.6631804436 482,1.8465909088 572,2.0247695849 800,2.4511648743 -
I use the values from Wismec and would guess that unless there is a known problem, the manufacturers' values should be the best option for any mod. Now battery information is slightly different... you can have a read for yourself: /topic/65604-topic/
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Which is more accurate a TCR number or CSV file?
Viruk replied to mactavish's topic in Manuals, Instructions, and Tutorials
It is Christmas and many people will be quite busy It would be interesting to see any update from him on this though -
Its under the "theme" tab - at the bottom under the heading "look and feel". I don't think it was there in the version of escribe I installed first - I had to manually update to 1.0.35.2 which you can find here: /topic/66731-topic/?do=findComment&comment=900118
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Which is more accurate a TCR number or CSV file?
Viruk replied to mactavish's topic in Manuals, Instructions, and Tutorials
I'm not saying he's wrong - but I'd like to know his methodology to get to the results he found. There are many reasons why his findings don't match our assumptions, but there are just too many possibilities to sensibly guess why that's the case. Is he using cheap wire? Did he download the wrong csv? In the video he repeatedly states the SS file as "316L" but selects SS 316 not SS 316L. I'm not saying he got it wrong, but its one possibility of the results not being quite right. I notice in the video that for SS he has a CSV file from DJaquith as well as files from steam engine - which one was used to compare against the TCR value he uses? I've seem some posts from Jaquith regarding different CSVs for SS and I'd be very interested in his opinion on this topic. In the video, he mentions using a wire manufacturers csv being better than a TCR value - but he provides no rationale for that statement. He doesn't say he tested it - is he just assuming this is correct? There just seem to be too many assertions without rationale or evidence of testing for me to accept it at face value. I'd like to repeat - I'm not saying he is wrong or mistaken, he might be absolutely correct in every way; but to me it just sounds like there are too many unknowns/assumptions in this process. What were the pre-heat and punch settings? From what I've read, SS doesn't seem to do very well with pre-heat set too high. What were the coils used in the test? Was the same coil used? If so, did it adequately cool to ambient temperature before a new test was performed? Anyway - I'm curious about the result and any verification we can get. I don't mean to just bash this review. Mactavish - if you do test this yourself with Titanium I'd be interested in your result. I have some SSV Titanium but have yet to use it as I've only had my DNA200 a few days. I have the manufacturers CSV and I'm curious how it will perform - but as the SSV titanium is some alloy I cant use a single TCR to compare that myself. I could try the SS Triton coil with a TCR but I can't measure the temperature as I don't have the equipment to do it - I would only be able to provide (completely unscientific) feedback about whether I noticed any difference and possibly a screenshot from device monitor about the stability of the temperature... -
Which is more accurate a TCR number or CSV file?
Viruk replied to mactavish's topic in Manuals, Instructions, and Tutorials
So - having found the relevant section in the video for him playing with the TCR for Stainless Steel, I actually stand by my initial comment... The guy in the video appears to refer to a TCR as a single value he enters (a linear approximation as I initially stated) whereas the CSV is a set of data points to on a curve. The CSV should be more accurate.... I'm referring to the section of video around the 47 minute mark - if he goes back and does this again later in the video please let me know a time reference so I can revisit it... The TCR is only a single value he sets - so less data points than the csv (which is basically several data points on the temperature curve). He says "its actually a better way and better experience if you set the TCR" - but in the section I watched he doesn't explain why he thinks this is the case. I don't actually think the way the guy in the video uses terminology is the best for clarity. Having found his results section (which seems to be lacking in methodology btw... he just has some numbers listed in graph form) - he does say that there could be margins of error due to variance in the alloys used. In terms of his lack of methodology related to my own (limited) experience with a csv, is for 316L stainless steel and I'm actually using a 0.4ohm Aspire Triton coil. I'm seeing a lot of bouncing around of the temperature in the device monitor. The issue of SS in temp control is discussed in other threads and the bouncing is not my focus here, however what number would I record for temperature if it is bouncing around like that? I'm just too uncertain about his process to rely on the data he presents as an absolute value. Are his coils really hitting and staying exactly at those temperatures? I doubt it - so whats the process for recording a temperature data point? how is this average value reached/calculated? Without some context to how this figure was arrived at I think the value of stating the number is limited... Rather than the question is CSV or TCR better; I think the question should be - are the data points in the csv more accurate for my coil material than a single approximation of the TCR value? Are you familiar with the term "Garbage In Garbage Out"? your results will only be as good as the values set in the CSV or TCR. (This is of course assuming that the chip handles everything as expected with no bugs or errors - but I'm not opening that question up here) So, in the video he claims that when you don't have the figures from the wire manufacturer the TCR is better; however this seems to be a fairly arbitrary claim. I guess YMMV - but without testing this out yourself with your own coils/materials you can't know which is better. In my mind (and I could be wrong here!), by using a single value for TCR you lose some of the benefit that the DNA200 chip can give you from using a more accurate set of data - but that assumes the data points are correct... Apologies if some of that is a bit rambling - I've tried to skim through the video and note my thoughts as I go. -
Feature request - power mode boost/ramp up
Viruk replied to Rebelgolfer72's topic in EScribe, Software and Firmware
+1 I've just found this request while looking up how to do this! Ideally I'd like to fire at a higher wattage for maybe a second to get everything warmed up then drop back to something less aggressive -
Which is more accurate a TCR number or CSV file?
Viruk replied to mactavish's topic in Manuals, Instructions, and Tutorials
apologies, my mistake - that'll teach me to post at 4am without reading properly! I was thinking about other devices that use a single value for the TCR rather than a curve... a csv will contain something like this.. "Temperature (degF)","Electrical Resistivity" -100,0.670714795589447 70,0.999953627586365 200.170745849609,1.28299999237061 299.544677734375,1.50100004673004 400,1.70200002193451 500.341491699219,1.92499995231628 600,2.09100008010864 800,2.375 Generally, unless you have the equipment and expertise to make your own file you should rely on wire manufacturers or other users files (including steam engine). There are plenty of people on the forums here sharing their experiences.