Question to all the guys with Paranormal DNA250c

[Abadaman]

Hi guys, 

I have a question for everyone with  Paranormal DNA250c from Lost Vape, or for anyone that could help me,

yesterday i finally got my new Paranormal DNA 250c, as this is my first mod (used only ijust2 and smok vape pen v2 before) i am still learning many things (basically i am a beginner).

Now to the point:

I am using Cthulhu Hastur mtl rta with the smallest air disc inside (the tightest draw), my target was 1ohm with SS316l 28ga from geekvape which indicated that i should use 9 wraps to get to my 1.0ohm target (used steam-engine.org). But, when i turned on the mod the coil came out at around 1.1+-ohms, with manual settings i could reduce it to 1.06ohms after few hours of not vaping.  (I have attached photos of the coil)

Using it for MTL-ing at around 12w it works great in replay, also in temp control using SS316 preset, replay basically sucks the coils out of the juice without one dry hit, well the atomizer runs pretty hot and sucks alot of juice for mtl, but after chainvaping i guess thats normal (or not, cant compare it), but what i fear is that paranormal series had some issues with reading the ohms because of 510 connector and that i am a victim of the same problem 75c had:

 

 

Am i doing something wrong if im not getting 1.0ohms at 9 wraps, but 1.1+-, have i done a mistake building the coil, or does my paranormal 250c have a problem with 510 pin reading ohms a little bit high? The  internal resistance of the mod is 0.004ohms (checked through EScribe).

 

I would be eternally thankful if someone could help me,

With Regards,

Abadaman

 

Photos of the coil:

[Abadaman]

I just came back from central vape shop, we tested my paranormal 250c with few other devices and literally all of them showed little variances of resistance using hastur mtl rta with ss316l in it.  Mine measured at 1.11ohms, other mod he tried showed 1.09ohms, another one 1.07ohms, guys there assured me that this is normal and there is nothing wrong with my device (havent bought my 250c from them so they had no reason to lie to me).  I guess they are right, what do yo guys think? 

[Pphish]

Try more than one build b4 jumping to conclusions. Just looking at your photos, I'm counting 9 inner wraps and 2 half wraps which would bring your total to 10... Correct me if I'm wrong. Also what was the inner diameter of your coil?

It's almost always the atty or the build having issues b4 the actual device itself.

[Abadaman]

Yeah you are probably right, i am still learning as paranormal 250c is my first mod, the inner diameter is 3mm

[Pphish]

2 hours ago, Abadaman said:

Yeah you are probably right, i am still learning as paranormal 250c is my first mod, the inner diameter is 3mm

That's what I guessed. With that many inner wraps it would yield anywhere from 1.1-1.13 ohms depending on the mod

Check out Vape Tool app for either Android or iOS. The free version will work for your current needs. The pro version is great. It's basically a simplified version of steam engine with some more in depth explanations of the parameters you are inputting for the calculator. I use it everytime I build, though steam engine is just as capable

Edited April 18, 2018 by Pphish

[bird]

Out of curiosity, I took the 510 up on my paranormal250c, just to investigate. It's a whole different story than the 75c was. They solder into the threads of the top half now.  On mine at least. 

[Abadaman]

7 hours ago, Pphish said:

That's what I guessed. With that many inner wraps it would yield anywhere from 1.1-1.13 ohms depending on the mod

Check out Vape Tool app for either Android or iOS. The free version will work for your current needs. The pro version is great. It's basically a simplified version of steam engine with some more in depth explanations of the parameters you are inputting for the calculator. I use it everytime I build, though steam engine is just as capable

Mine shows even more wraps through steamengine,  around 9.94wraps @ 1.1ohms for ss316l 28ga, 3mm, thanks guys for clearing this out for me (and thanks to the guys @ vapeshop also :)). The replay works flawlessly, this thing basically sucks the cotton smoothly out of the juice without a problem

6 hours ago, bird said:

Out of curiosity, I took the 510 up on my paranormal250c, just to investigate. It's a whole different story than the 75c was. They solder into the threads of the top half now.  On mine at least. 

That is amazing! Thanks for checking it for all of us who had doubts in our minds :)) 

[bird]

No prob bob, that's what life is about, getting answers! <3

[Lilpetabread]

On 4/18/2018 at 6:47 PM, bird said:

Out of curiosity, I took the 510 up on my paranormal250c, just to investigate. It's a whole different story than the 75c was. They solder into the threads of the top half now.  On mine at least. 

Thanks for checking that out for us! Quick question. Does taking apart/reassembling the 510 help the protruding 510 issue at all? The fact that nothing sits flush on it drives me nuts! 

[bird]

2 hours ago, Lilpetabread said:

Thanks for checking that out for us! Quick question. Does taking apart/reassembling the 510 help the protruding 510 issue at all? The fact that nothing sits flush on it drives me nuts! 

You know, I didn't really look that awefully close to see how things sat before, but they are flush as I could ever ask for as of the moment. Everything I own that is. 

[Lilpetabread]

Thanks for letting me know. You lucked out, I have the protruding 510 plate that a few reviewers/owners have mentioned. Makes such an otherwise gorgeous mod look kind of ugly. Lol

[Abadaman]

Mine also doesnt sit totally flush, but to be honest its something i dont care about at all. :)) 

 

 

[bird]

I'm just happy the 510 is a solid design. Mine sits perfectly on the connector, which is a bit higher than the black band of metal with the logo on it. The atomizer sits flush on the 510 though. Could have been different before lifting the 510. 

[Pphish]

9 hours ago, Lilpetabread said:

Thanks for checking that out for us! Quick question. Does taking apart/reassembling the 510 help the protruding 510 issue at all? The fact that nothing sits flush on it drives me nuts! 

I did the same after spilling a bit of juice. Impressed with build quality for being the lowest price option for a DNA 250c... And the best looking option IMHO. I haven't seen a single Paranormal unit where the 510 sits flush with the mod... It not a protruding 510 pin so much as a raised lip on the 510 connecter. I've had the device about a week and half and have already gotten over it. The Paranormal 250c is easily the best device I've owned or tried. I do want to try and make my own lipo 250c... But thus far I'm not seeing any chassis that I like. I'll give it time. I can live with the 510 connecter the way it is, the device is still handsome and functional as any unit I've owned

[Abadaman]

23 minutes ago, Pphish said:

I did the same after spilling a bit of juice. Impressed with build quality for being the lowest price option for a DNA 250c... And the best looking option IMHO. I haven't seen a single Paranormal unit where the 510 sits flush with the mod... It not a protruding 510 pin so much as a raised lip on the 510 connecter. I've had the device about a week and half and have already gotten over it. The Paranormal 250c is easily the best device I've owned or tried. I do want to try and make my own lipo 250c... But thus far I'm not seeing any chassis that I like. I'll give it time. I can live with the 510 connecter the way it is, the device is still handsome and functional as any unit I've owned

Yup, the mod is really classy and the replay function is just, well, amazing, yesterday i opened up EScribe, diagnostics, took 3 puffs, saved and watched basically identical graph curve on every subsequent puff. This thing rocks and it really works. Im lovin it

[RastaVaper]

15 hours ago, Pphish said:

I did the same after spilling a bit of juice. Impressed with build quality for being the lowest price option for a DNA 250c... And the best looking option IMHO. I haven't seen a single Paranormal unit where the 510 sits flush with the mod... It not a protruding 510 pin so much as a raised lip on the 510 connecter. I've had the device about a week and half and have already gotten over it. The Paranormal 250c is easily the best device I've owned or tried. I do want to try and make my own lipo 250c... But thus far I'm not seeing any chassis that I like. I'll give it time. I can live with the 510 connecter the way it is, the device is still handsome and functional as any unit I've owned

The 510 is designed to be raised up compared to the Therion, which had a completely flush and flat 510. You can tell this by inspecting the surface of the 510, the torx screws are recessed in and the platform rises above them.  It's also a narrower diameter platform, because the atomizer doesn't have to sit on it entirely. I've added a photo to show you the difference, I believe this design choice is to prevent scratches to the surface of the mod. I actually prefer this choice personally. 

[GHammer]

I like the 510. 

It is solid and the slight raise keep my tank from contacting the top of the mod.  I can see no light between the tank and the mod, that would concern me. 

Meanwhile, the vape is easily the best I have experienced. 

 

[RastaVaper]

The raised 510 platform means it can accomodate any size atty without scratching the mod should it exceed the pre-determined plate size, which is what happened with its predecessor. It's a lovely device, the frame on mine is a little wonky though - it's wobbly when it's sat a-top of a flat surface,  the mod rocks  and sways if any external force affects its stability, no matter how miniscule.  Bit annoying, but love it otherwise. 

Edited April 22, 2018 by RastaVaper

[bird]

I'm right there with you. The 510 plate is what the atty sits flush with, and all the handsome gunmetal and black anodized band don't show any signs I've attached anything to it. I prefer this, it keeps things nice longer. The plate is thick, as well, and the mating to the frame seems solid. Don't throw it down a stair well, but it is just fine the way it is.