Lavabox 75 settings

[dnanick]

new to the dna,haven't even got my device yet,don't really know what i'm talking about,but I'm trying to prepare myself; I'm watching now Pbusardo's videos about the dna75 devices,and it seems one of the criteria is if they come with some settings from the factory: -case analyzer -set the internal resistance -if they come with some custom settings i contacted volcano about it and they said i could use the same settings of the DNA 200 for the Lavabox DNA 75 http://www.volcanoecigs.com/blog/evolv-escribe-use-with-the-lavabox-dna-200.html/page/1 http://www.volcanoecigs.com/blog/escribe-settings-lavabox-dna-200-1300-mah-battery-extender.html/page/2 here is a csv file: (i think for the 900mha lipo) www.volcanoecigs.com/media/blog/volcano-lavabox-escribe-battery-settings.csv and one for the 1300mah: www.volcanoecigs.com/media/blog/volcano-lavabox-1300mah-escribe-battery-settings.csv settings they suggest for the 900mah: Battery Capacity: 9.99Wh Soft Cell Cutoff: 3.09v Mod Internal Resistance: 0.007 Ohms and for the 1300: Battery Capacity: 14.43Wh Soft Cell Cutoff: 3.09v Mod Internal Resistance: 0.007 Ohms also there are differences in the thermal Case Settings between those 2 batteries(it's to long to copy/paste here, but you can see those in the links above) it seems weird to me since the lavabox200 comes with a lipo battery,and the 75 with a 18650. -are those csv files good for the 75?(if yes,which one?) -is Soft Cell Cutoff: 3.09v(for lipo)good for the 18650 battery? -should i do a case analyzer by myself with escribe when i get my device? I'd be glad if someone could explain a-bit or just tell me by the suggestions of volcano what should i put in each setting. Thanks.

[VapingBad]

I would expect the case thermals to be different for the 75, the test measures how heat is dispersed while charging at different rates and easy to do yourself.

Yes 3.09 V soft cell cut-off is higher than you would want with an 18650 or you will get short battery runtime because of the higher sag they have than LiPos 2.75 V is a good value.

Mod res should the same if they all use the same 510 & wiring.

You will need to choose Advanced or Manufacture under Options - User Interface in EScribe to get to the settings on the Mod tab.

[dnanick]

Thanks,that was clear.

-if i understood correctly, the .csv files volcano provide are settings for the whole device:900 or 1300.
but they also contain:"Ni/Ti/SS temperature control wire settings, custom screens with a simple, larger and easier to read font."
i wonder how do i extract only those,since I'm looking for some general TC setting and not having to set multiple profile for the number of wraps i do/Inner diameter etc. in 'Steam engine'.(if that's possible and does exist).

-about the battery i just read(by Mooch):"Don't overdischarge them. Our batteries are rated down to 2.5V or lower but you can extend their life by staying above 2.8V-3.0V***. Going below 2.0V or so leads to metal being plated inside different parts of the battery, eventually causing an internal short circuit and possible bursting of the battery.(***This is the resting voltage, NOT the voltage "under load" that the battery drops to when being used. If your mod stops firing when the battery drops to 3.2V the battery can rise back to to 3.5V or even higher after resting for a while. This "resting voltage" is the important voltage, the one to be used when determining how low you are really discharging your batteries.)"

i think I'll put it somewhere in between and hope I'll get a descent battery run-time and no weak battery alerts.

[VapingBad]

Wire types and other settings are the same across the devices, but I don't think you can use a 200 confing on a 75.

Mooch is right as usual, the soft cell cut off is the min voltage under load and you battery will be over 3 V when it hits this limit, if at high power maybe as much a 3.5 V.  I am testing some batteries ATM and for example a 30Q is hitting the limit in 3 seconds when it's resting voltage is 3.86 V running at 75 W, but AOSO 42A 2600 mAh it is at 3.54 V.

[dnanick]

i just re-watched a YouTube review on Lavabox 75 and it seems it comes with some preset profiles for a few type of wires.
about the case analyzer, I'll wait to see what's on the mod when i get it, and also ask Volcano for their values,since i don't really want to do a 2-3 hours test.

[Wayneo]

@dnanick "...not having to set multiple profile for the number of wraps i do/Inner diameter etc. in 'Steam engine'." TC works via wire type. wraps, I.D, etc. are not relevant. 

Unlike the majority of other mods, on these, the best practice is also to not lock the resistance while using TC. There are only a few cases when you should.

1. You have an atty where you're getting jumpy ohms, which in that case you need to fix your build. 
2. You're going to change your battery, and will lose the 'refinement' that the board has done (unless plugged into a USB cable).

As far as profiles are concerned, there are a couple different ways people create them, either singularly or in combination (like a mix of one style or other).

1. Some set them up by wire type, temperature, punch, pre-heat for wire type, OR
2. Some set them up by punch, pre-heat, either more or less, then just change the wire type to match those settings.
3. Some set them up by atty or RDA for wire type, temp, punch, pre-heat.

There is no wrong way, just the way you prefer. I personally only use option 1.

Welcome and enjoy your mod. 

[dnanick]

Thanks!

[dnanick]

ok, this is what i got from Volcano: Aloha ***, The DNA 75 actually does not require much tampering with. The device is good to use out of the box. We have also confirmed this with EVOLV who is the manufacture of the chip. I have attached a link to our blog with all the settings for the DNA 200 for you to refer to. http://www.volcanoecigs.com/blog/evolv-escribe-use-with-the-lavabox-dna-200.html

[dnanick]

i just got my device. it seems that the escribe software for the Dna75 doesn't contain all of the above. it looks like a simplified version which allows you to tweak more or less everything, but comes whith preset settings for the basic wires and the device. not much left to do from my part,which is fine by me since I'm quit a basic user and not looking for to much hassle.

[VapingBad]

dnanick said:

i just got my device. it seems that the escribe software for the Dna75 doesn't contain all of the above. it looks like a simplified version which allows you to tweak more or less everything, but comes whith preset settings for the basic wires and the device. not much left to do from my part,which is fine by me since I'm quit a basic user and not looking for to much hassle.

Have a look at Options - User Interface

[dnanick]

VapingBad said:

Have a look at Options - User Interface

i missed that,i was on the 'clean' version. Thanks,I'll check it out later.