MikeTheVapeDude

My concern was the DNA was doing something now it wasn't doing before. I'm vastly aware of temperature effects on wires, I'm an associate's level electrical engineer, with the 4-25 fiasco it worried me. Turns out my 510 ground was loose and needed a resolder. Thanks guys.

Nevermind my ground wire was loose, just had to solder it up.

I don't remember if the DNA200 ever fluctuated when vaping on Kanthal before. It's been so long. Does yours? I know this is normal, but the fact it didn't then and is now worries me. On kanthal vapes does your resistance reading change in terms of like going from .42 to .44, etc? As I said I know this is normal, but it's never done this before that I remember. Usually it just displayed cold ohms on the reader.

So why would my mod keep the stagnant input resistance of the coil before but now it goes up slightly when vaping? I know that's normal, when a wire is heated its resistance goes up no matter what the TCR rating of it is, just, why didn't it before? I'm talking pre 4-25.

Now that I've rolled back my device started asking 'New Coil?' again (it previously had stopped) and now the resistance will change from .50 to .51, .52, .49 when vaping like it used to. I know even kanthal changes resistance minutely when heated and cooled rapidly and the DNA's ohm reader is very accurate, just strange how it had stopped even prior to 4-25 but now has started back. Should I be worried? Could 4-25 have done damage to my board even though I rolled back?

I have this sinking feeling in my gut with the FDA stuff and now DNA firmware bricking devices my favorite hobby is going to explode.

I already did. What happened with you?

What was it about the 4-25 update that was dangerous to the mod? I got a dead battery bar indicator with a full charge which a soft reboot fixed, then came here and saw all the talk about it bricking DNA's. What is going on with it?

I was having a grand old time with it until I saw the battery bar was EMPTY when I had a 12.6V pack voltage, then I came here and saw people say it was bricking their 200's. Other than the battery bar incident, I was loving the fact the output voltage was a little higher. Evolv, I beg you to up the OV to 9.3V, it would help me immensely and you could keep that buck efficiency. The cutoff of the lipo cells are 3.1V. 3.1 X 3 = 9.3V. Meaning the highest output voltage will be the lowest input voltage possible. I assume this is what you guys did on 4-25. PLEASE KEEP IT.

I think if we can just find a way to exempt hardware (RDA's, RTA's, RDTA's, Sub-Ohm Tanks and their coil heads, Unregulated and Regulated Mods, building wires, etc.) from this, we could all be fine. We sell juices as food flavorings with 0 nic, and we buy our own nicotine to add to them. If we could do this, we could survive.

They're lumping e-cig used nicotine under tobacco products, they could give a damn about small concentrates in other food items.

What do you mean the 4-25 was 'bricking devices'?

So let's support the FDA and all go back to BT produced vape pens with 300+ carcinogens in them. Great plan.

Sucks to suck. Why is it when I try to support advocacy everyone feels the need to tell everyone about their secret vape bunker? What about the businesses that will be killed, the livelihoods destroyed, the smokers who can't convert, the people who can't afford gallons of nicotine to store? Is this seriously not serious to ANY of you? I mean really? Would you all really sit there and laugh because you think you can turn vaping into a quasi-legal business like 420 headshops? Is that what vaping is? Some hush-hush barely-legal thing? This is about harm reduction, and you people have made it into something completely different. 99% of you don't even care about this, and you people are THE REASON it's even happening. So screw the smokers who want a viable option to quit, screw the people employed at vape shops bringing home income to feed their kids, screw business owners who are going to lose everything, screw EVERYBODY BUT YOU because lol br0 i g0tz nicz in duh fridg3. You people are disgusting. Revolting.

I can't revert back, my device locks at Upload Settings on ANY firmware besides 4-25 now. I can change it back, but, any other firmware will not work. I didn't know what I was doing was risky, it was from a download from an Evolv supported German website. I'm a bit pissed off at this point.

I updated to 4-25 thinking it was fine. I had no idea what I was doing was bad. I see today it was. I try to go back. Impossible. Any other firmware I try to put on the device locks it at the upload settings screen, if I go back to 4-25, it works. Why, just, why? Nobody had told me doing this was AT MY OWN RISK or anything.

You're one of the few in this thread I didn't lump into it.

I'm not as arrogant as you, sorry. It's foolish to have a storm like this looming over your head and laugh off making plans because of what 'could' happen. What could happen is vaping could die outright, and if you want to laugh it off and keep dialing in your TCR settings go ahead, the rest of us are going to do what we can to keep vaping alive and survive.

Because not having plans is procrastination, procrastination is how things like this happened.

More-so just wondering what Evolv's plans were as-is. I know we beat the FDA once in 2010.

The FDA just pounded the hammer with the regulations on vaping. I'm curious to know what companies like Evolv will do, as it's hard to regulate electronics no matter what their use. RDA's, RTA's, I worry there because I can always make my mods and juice but I can't machine stuff, but that's another matter. Evolv, what is your response to the FDA's ruling?

Is the output voltage supposed to be higher?

Just thought I'd mention this. My mods are now going up past 9V. My current build maxes it out at 9.2V at 200W and I haven't built anything a little higher to see if it goes past this, but, evidently 9V isn't the max output voltage anymore.

4-25, I updated. The output voltage on my mod now goes past 9V. The highest I've had it is 9.2V. Interesting.

The only real benefit to using a switch is, cheaping out really. That's good to hear.