Bobby

Nice. That is something I also want to try but do not want to buy the Orion and throw everthing beside the board in the trash. Do you or anybody else know whether the DNA Go board will be available for hobby DIY modmakers in the future?

@James Geweldig! Dankjewel! (Awesome! Thank you!) I haven't taken a look yet at EScribe 2.0 SP4. Do you know whether there are any additions/changes to the po-file?

Dutch (NL) Language file v2.0.3.1 (for Escribe v2.0 SP3.1): NL Language EScribe v2.0.3.1.zip

Dutch (NL) Language file v1.2.5.3 (for Escribe v1.2 SP5.3): Zip contains the files: - EScribe.po - Unrecognized MsgIDs.txt - Lees me.txt (instructions in Dutch) NL Language EScribe v1.2.5.2 & missing ID file.zip

Dutch (NL) Language file v1.2 (for Escribe v1.2 SP3): NL Language EScribe v1.2 & missing ID file.zip Zip contains the files: - EScribe.po - Unrecognized MsgIDs.txt - Lees me.txt (instructions in Dutch)

Estimated time of shipping for the Hcigar VT 75Watt mod: end of april according to http://www.efun.top/hcigar-vt75-box-mod.html

There seems to be more to the Pure X2 technology of the Pioneer4you and YiHi mods than I initially thought. With a TCR of 0.000875 (=TCR of SS317 which is slightly less than SS316L) the relative resistance change is 0.0875% per degree C. No problem so far, but if the coil resistance @ room temperature is as low as 0.067 Ohm, the absolute resistance change is 0.0586 mOhm per degree C (= TC accuracy) I don't think the DNA200 (and other TC mods) can do true TC on coils with such a low TC accuracy (yet). Like with a SS316L coil of 0.064 Ohm (same TC accuracy), once the temperature setpoint is reached on this coil, TC will behave very erratic.

SS317 has a TCR of 0.000875. Since they are showing a TCR of 0.00088 in the video. my assumption would be that the heating element is made of SS317.

Dutch translation file v1.11; for EScribe v1.0.42 is available. (see post#3 of this thread for download locations: /topic/65610-topic/?do=findComment&comment=886856)

Aphaa was using a dual clapton coil (more mass = slow heat up), that's why I suspected the slow ramp up but seeing how he corrected the problem, you are probably right and it was a poor post connection.

I think that your coils are heating up too slow. I think the initial raise in temperature should be more than 150 degree F in the first second. If this is not seen bij the DNA it will change over to powermode. You could try to increase the preheat/punch to see if this improves the situation. If not, post your profile settings and people might have other suggestions.

[QUOTE=Guilouz] I have a new strings when upload settings : msgid "Checking Settings" msgstr "checking settings" Checking settings -> Uploading settings -> Verifying settings [/QUOTE] Thanks, I'll include that one in my NL translation v1.11 and v1.3 of the missing msgID text file (I'll update my post #3 later). [QUOTE=pol]Change Polish to English [/QUOTE] Yep, I see the same thing where the language name is still in English BTW, This did not work: #. General->Ohms Locked msgid "Ω ({0} °F)" msgstr "Ω ({0} °F)" I have it working as msgid "? ({0} °F)" msstr "? ({0} °f)"

Thank you for doing the trials and posting the results. It's very helpful for me. I think that the smoother result has less to do with the diameter of the wire but more with the Cold Ohms of the coil (1.073 vs 0.552). The higher resistance will raise the TC precision (or milliOhms/degree C) so the mod can regulate more accurately. Off course (with the same build) the thinner wire is, the higher the resistance of the build will be.

Great thanks. I found 2 more: #. Materials tab - Materials on Device #. popup screen - Moving materials between repository and device msgid "That material is already in the repository." msgstr "that material is already in the repository." msgid "That material is already on the device." msgstr "that material is already on the device."

@pol, Thanks for the addition The entry: msgctxt "English Language Code" msgid "pl" msgstr "Polish" is missing on my PC in the file [..\Evolv\EScribe\Languages\en\Escribe.po] ("zh-CN" is also not defined) That's why msgid "pl" will work and msgid "Polish" will only work if I add the entry mentioned. Please note: msgid "Please restart {0} for the change to take effect." is recognized (the 2 others are not).

I have added version 1.9 of the Dutch translation for use with Escribe v1.0.38 to my earlier post #3 (Quick link). In that post I also included the version 1.2 of the text file containing the missing and the hardcoded msgID's (i.e. not recognized msgID's) in 'Example Language File.po'.

Well, have fun. I am curious about the results of your experiments. My reply was about the fact that the issues with SS can't be solved by tweaking the TCR values or curve, but that you need to build coils with higher resistance to reduce the error. The thicker the wire, the more challenging it gets and with 'multiwire' builds (claptons, etc) it gets near to impossible. Fortunately we can still enjoy these in powermode (or temp limiting mode).

I know some of the YT reviewers do cotton burn tests. The only ones I know who always do a lot of measurements when reviewing a mod, are DJLsb Vapes and Obi. Isn't it so that the only relevance of the TCR or TFR curve is the link between what the mod regulated to and the real world temperature. For the mod it doesn't make a difference to what real world temperature it regulates. It only looks at resistance change and to what resistance value to regulate. It does this by calculating the resistance value from the setpoint temperature, the TCR value or the TFR curve and the cold resistance reference (it will also put the readings of the PCB and housing temp sensors into the equation, but I leave that out for simplicity) Yes, if the value or the curve is not correct, it will get too hot or not hot enough, but the mod will still regulate at that high (or low) temperature since it doesn't know it is not correct. That is why you can vape Ti on a mod with only a NI200 setting by setting the temperature lower (there is even a chart for).

@Vapingbad; Thanks for the screen dumps, I learned something again. I guess this confirms that with true TC and SS you have to go super-ohm instead of sub-ohm and you can't build thick builds with thick wires since than the resistance will drop too low. I found that dual coils of thick Ti Gr I (0.5 mm or 24 gauge) also have a too large temperature error. At least I now know what to avoid and why.

Conan, please post a screenshot of the device monitor or to use a famous interweb quote: "Pics or it didn't happen".

CE marking is self-certification. The mark means that they have tested the device according to the CE directives (and self-certified it) but since there are no CE directives for mods, the CE mark doesn't mean anything. I do not know if that is an offense but if you say so, I believe you. BTW: I took a look and found CE marks on the Kangertech, Kangxin, Vaporesso, Lost Vape, Opus, VapeOnly and Ijoy boxes, so HCigar is not the only one.

Well, I guess that is true. I did a little research; flashlights and other battery operated devices (not toys or medical) do not require a CE mark, so neither do mods. Still, what truth is HCigar bending if they put a CE mark on their mods, even if there is no requirement for it?

It is just my guess but Mods would probably fall in the product group 'low voltage' and maybe also 'Electromagnetic compatibility' Somebody working in customs would probably know better which product group they belong to. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking#Product_groups I am pretty sure all mods, being electrical devices, require CE certification, so why would HCigar bend the truth with this?

@blueridgedog see my remark in my previous post: "A TCR/csv that is slightly off only results in an offset between actual and measured temperature and will not cause the erratic behavior. (The mod doesn't know the actual temperature, only knows what it measures and what TCR/TFR values are put in its memory. That's why you can for example do TC on a Ti coil with a mod that only has a nickel setting)."

Yes, I see this on different wires, factory SS coils (and different atty's). It is imho really the TC regulating the power (to hold the setpoint temperature) that is erratic. Please, please post a screenshot of the device monitor of this (if it is really regulating to maintain the temperature and not putting out the set power for the duration of the puff). A TCR/csv that is slightly off only results in an offset between actual and measured temperature and will not cause the erratic behavior. (The mod doesn't know the actual temperature, only knows what it measures and what TCR/TFR values are put in its memory. That's why you can for example do TC on a Ti coil with a mod that only has a nickel setting). Well, if it is too inaccurate for true TC and vendors are pushing SS coils and the SS option in their mods as the latest and greatest, it would be good to know the true story. It will save a lot of headaches for vapers starting with SS.