GrumpyJoe Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I recently got some Geek Vape SS430 (26ga & 24ga) and I am trying to get it working properly in temp. I am using a single basic 6 wrap spaced coil, 3mm ID in a Merlin RTA. The Steam Engine csv that I downloaded seems to need a very high temp to put out decent vapor and the stock SS430 csv from the SD75C seems to be really hot and thus requires a very low temp to work anywhere close to ok. I am attaching the two csv files for reference but I am looking for input from users who may have their SS430 working well in temp. Thanks all SS430.csv SS430-SteamEngine.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awsum140 Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) I had a similar problem with Crazy Wire SS430 and went to unkamen, which is also nickel free, but is only available in 28 gauge. I got the Crazy Wire working acceptably using a TCR of around .002 if I remember correctly. I'm now using the Crazy Wire as baling wire. The unkamen works very well with the curve from Steam Engine, at least for me. I usually twist two pieces to wind a coil, but to be honest, it really isn't necessary for me anyway. Edited September 9, 2017 by awsum140 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayneo Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) I can vouch for that SS430 from Unkamen also. IIRC it was $10 for 100 feet. Even after a quick drill spin before twisting two pieces it was still quite springy and would deform easily. I ended up making 2x28 with 40g fused claptons. Great tiny coils that last a long time. Curve from Steam-engine. The 420F from my SS430, SS316, and Ti01 coils all feel to be the same heat to my lungs. Edited September 9, 2017 by Wayneo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyJoe Posted September 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) Just thought I would post a follow up in case anyone was having the same issue. A friend who is quite knowledgeable with temp and all things Evolve played with the GeekVape (GV) SS430 wire for me and we found that a manual TCR of 0.00185 works well for this wire on the evolve chipset; he tweaked the TCR until it started to brown/burn dry cotton at 430-450 degree range. We only tested the GV SS430 24ga, but I assume the same manual TCR would work also for the GV 26ga SS430. The recommended manual TCR of 0.00138 for generic SS430 requires a very high temp (570+ degrees F) to produce acceptable vapor with the GV SS430. Grumpy Edited September 11, 2017 by GrumpyJoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayneo Posted September 11, 2017 Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Yo Grumpy, SS is an alloy so that TCR value is close/correct for your current spool of wire. You ought to do that burn or water test or check it with a thermoprobe with every new spool you purchase. There is no specific recipe for any grade, more like minimums and maximums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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