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Tub Thumper, I have theme done. I have it installed on a 75c and 250c and are basically doing bug checking. So far everything is working perfectly and there will be no issues. I will post theme and a changes pdf tomorrow. JT

Thanks for that. I started my Evolv adventure with the Darwin. After thinning out the herd I still have at least one still perfectly functioning mod with every board that Evolv produced. Except the Darwin. I gave that mod to my best friends wife. It helped her quit smoking. But I wish I had that stupid looking mod back!!! You know I really miss seeing Basil, Mike P, Jaquinth, Retird and others. I even miss Dr G because when he wasn't beating back the perceived trolls he had great posts Great times, days and people! I am not an engineer. But I owned a machine shop that roughed exotic materials to shape for CNC shops. When you machine exotics ( stainless, incnonel , monel, and or hastaloy) you need an intimate knowledge of the materials properties. After I sold my shop in 92. I started programming, testing and diagnosing industrial controls. In 2002 by chance I got a client who's plant manufactured liquid gasses including liquid hydrogen. I started working in the hydrogen plant with the temperature control issues that were causing process shutdowns and some smaller problems. These temperature controllers work very close to the same as the Evolv boards in T/C. Feed back from a ptc resistance sensors to the boards controller. I have always admired how Evolv got that complex of a controller to fit in that small package Why this ramble? At this time I am writing a post that will try to explain why for any 300 or 400 series stainless steels there is no (NO) perfect tfr/tcr, maybe close ideal maybe but..., for that material. I you are a materials engineer let me know. I will pm you my post for review before I post it. My post in this thread on the resistance rise irritates me to no end. I hope the stainless post will clear that up. Regards...JT ps; Working in that LH plant scared the carp out of me, and I aint easily skeered. This building where the controls were, sat in the middle of an approximate 1 square mile complex. That had a 2 mile thirty foot tall an 40 foot thick wall around it. Making it about a 5 square mile site that was in the center of a huge industrial area. The idea of my atoms being found somewhere in the 10 or larger mile radius hole in the ground if that plant blew up.......it just was not very appealing at the least.

zark, Я надеялся, что он будет судить Проектировщика Темы к. Я думаю, что он имел бы развлечение с этим. JT

dwcraig, my main p/c blew up (power supply) about a month ago. The computer I am using has Vista for the OS. Chrome will not install on it and as shaky as Vista is I do not want to tempt fate. gwyar, Thanks for the condensed color chart. If you would like to, please post up you're other art. It might help the community. Thanks guys....JT

Man that is to cool. I was hoping that you would delve into Theme Designer, I've had a ton of fun making themes of my own and for other people like the one I an doing for you. I will set the theme at 5w and 10°. Personally I think those values are to coarse. But being that you have figured out how to change the increments in Theme Designer I know you can tailor the values to suit your vaping style. Nicely done sir!! Check back in a couple of days. I'll post the theme here. Regards....JT

Wayneo, Thanks for your input! I have read your posts on here and ECF going back years and value you're opinions as comming from knowledgable source. The theme I posted is the default Evolv theme I just added the read ohms button and resistance field. I am aware that you can change the wire type in that theme. Because of Tub Thumper's short experience with the mod I do not think he realized he could do so on the mod. If he did know that he could change the wire type it was never stated and imho did not pertain to the question asked. One of my points was to try answer his question on whether he could turn ohms sampling off on the mod. Another was to create a tool that would make his experimenting easier. The third I was hoping he would delve into Theme Designer and see hw much fun can be had with that software.I think I accomplished that mission. I just checked the resistance rise on three mods with temco SS316L , I use the steam engine tfr. You are correct. The average rise was 20.5%. I normally vape temco titanium 1 using the steam engine tfr. A long time ago I did the math using a calculator instead of my at times feeble brain and the rise percentage is what I stated, 80 to 90% averaging ~ 83%. Also I was trying to make a point showing that SS rises a very small amount compared to other wire types. I also reallize that you think this testing is a frivolous waste of time. I can respect that. Back when I first tried SS316l I basically did the exact kind of testing as Tub Thumper is doing. Using the mod as the test tool and measuring the resistance on the mod using the finest value (1/10000 ohm) available.I know that the results of my testing were skewed and not 100% accurate because the mod reads the ohms at a finer level than 1/10000 of an ohm. I thought the mod would refine the entered value. Maybe I am wrong on refining the resistance? I also tried to keep the room temp as close to 70° as possible during my testing for consistency. I did not know that the mod read the resistance to nine decimal places. I thought it was 5 or 6. But at the end of the day, I had fun, I made the correct decision to use a tfr from a known source. Not some half baked tcr fom djlsb or any other source. I also respect the work that jaquith put in early on too. He was an asset to the community! It also did not harm me or my mods to do so. I hope you can respect that. One question, Are you getting the resistance value from calculating the known tfr vs room temperature or does your mod display such a value? Anyway stay safe and have a great day....JT

I'm really glad that is helping. If you think I could help with other mod or theme related questions. Ask away. If I know the answer I'll tell you what I know. If I can't answer you will hear, sorry I don't know. I am the the same. I really dislike having loud colors and having to read fields through pictures. Having to use a microscope to see the 250 things on a screen is well........ Due to some things that are out of my control. I'm stuck with not being able to do much other than work at the p/c. I'll take the theme I posted and make all the changes that I wanted to make the other night. It would take no time to add some features to make it more usable. Do you have a preference for the wattage and temperature adjustment steps? The choices are for wattage .1, .2, .5, 1, 2, 5 or 10 watt increments. For temperature 1°, 2°, 5° or 10°. It takes no more time to leave increments at the default .1 watt and 1° then it does to change the value. I prefer 2° temperature steps, for me 1° does not make enough difference in flavor and 5° is to coarse. Let me know. It will take a couple of days of fooling around with it on and off. I'll post it here when its done. Regards....JT

When you start using the little theme I made check out making several resistance checks one after the other. I think it will impress you how much the ohms change after each measurement. The increase also depends on which type for wire used. When vaping on stainless the resistance rise is much lower cold to hot, compared to titanium that has an ohm rise of around 85 to 95% All ohm settings are critical for any wire type. But because stainless resistance rises so little when heated, the accuracy of the measurement and settings are magnitudes more important. The theme I included isn't very pretty but as a simple tool to use in your experimenting it will be fine. Down the road a better theme is a must. I've been developing a more technically inclined theme for a while. It and its documentation are just about done. After I post it on Theme Park I hope you will check it out. The note I added on not making ohms changes to make the vape better was aimed at inexperienced people who might not know that it is a dangerous practice to do so. I wish I could have edited the post with the theme to make that statement. But I waited to long to edit the post. JT

I forgot to mention, When using the measure button. Do it once for the most accurate reading. Each time you read the ohms the mod sends a tiny amount of current to the atty to make the measurement. If the button is selected over and over the resistance reading will rise as the measuring current heats the coil. JT To add to this it can be dangerous to edit the resistance without a good reason. T/C Depends on the correct resistance to be measured and set. Inputting the wrong values high or low will cause the temperature of the coil to be VERY different than what is set on the mods screen. Inputting a KNOWN resistance value is not a problem in the least. Butt changing the resistance to make it vape better is in my opinion is not a very smart thing to do.

You are very welcome, Tub Thumper. When I got my first 75c 2 or so years ago. I stayed on the stock theme until I got all of the new stuff the board did sorted out. Experimenting with different wires and atty's was fun. I did not want to complicate the learning curve by throwing themes into the equation as well. I'm sort on an old guy (66) who likes to start slow and learn everything I can about something new. To many variables at the same time for me is not a good thing☺ Anyway, good luck and stay safe............JT

Tub Thumper, If I remember correctly the board reads the ohms to five decimal places. It is very important to use the 1/10,000 setting when editing the ohms. At the default 1/100s the ohms could be 10 to 20% off from the actual resistance if the coil is below .15 ohm. Measuring and setting the ohms in this fine of scale should help in evaluating the different tcr/tfr settings. This is the default Evolv theme with the read ohms button and ohms editing field. I replaced the upper ohms field with the battery voltage. I also made the Atomizer screen ohms field read only. Download the theme and have fun!! JT About the tcr/tfr's I use the Steam Engine version. I feel that the default 316 profile vapes too cold. The temperature setting for the stock 316 profile was 20 to 30 degres higher for me than the Steam Engine profile. Hope this helps, JT 250c default with ms ohms.ecigtheme

Tub Thumper, There is no way around the resample thing. Using EScribe to do it is a royal pain. Hold on for minute I might have a default theme with the features that you can use until you have more experience with the mod and themes. JT

Wayneo, Thanks, I'll keep using the Russian translating site that I found. Hopefully in a month or so I will get my new pc together and the issue will be solved. Zark is good people and I like reading his posts. But the translation deal leaves me wondering if either of us has a clue to what each other is saying. Thanks again, JT

Tub Thumper, I still experiment as you describe. To get around the resample problem, I would put all of the cold atty's (5) on one profile. I would measure the resistance by useing the read ohms button in my theme. I made a notepad file that I recorded the different cold atty's resistances in. In my theme I have a cold resistance field on the main screen that I can set the ohms in. If your theme has an ohms field you can make it editable by using Theme Designer and the settings in the screenshot below. If your theme does not have a read ohms button I can show you how to make one. JT

Привет Zark, Можете Вы объявлять скриншот того, где щелкнуть для перевода. Жаль, чтобы беспокоить Вас с этим. Но было бы легче говорить, если бы я знал, что щелкнуть. Спасибо, JT If an admin or anyone else sees this could you please tell me how to use sites translate function. JT

Эй Zark, На моем pc (старом) очень трудно перевести посты. Таким образом я не могу понять то, что Вы отправили по почте. Но СПАСИБО за ваше искусство. В ваших папках есть некоторые превосходные пункты. Я действительно надеюсь больше поста людей их искусство, Это была бы большая помощь сообществу!! JT Я нашел участок перевода. Если Вы видите, что это сообщите мне, если Вы можете иметь смысл из этого.

Hey Zark, On my pc (old) it is very hard to translate posts. So I can not understand what you posted. But THANK YOU for your art. There are some excellent items in your folders. I really hope more people post up their art It would be a great help to the community!! JT

Added silver or black side bars on the main screen and a replay switch to the atomizer screen. JT 250c ---- 250 v2 silver.ecigtheme 250c ---- 250 v2 black.ecigtheme

Miscellaneous Enjoy JT

Controls

Maybe a view of whats in the folders will generate some interest? Wallpaper

Bluellbloke, The battery changing deal can be a frustration. I have multiple 75c and 250c mods. It seems to act the same on the 75c and the 250c. I try to get the change done in 15 seconds or so. Faster than that seems to lose the time as well taking longer. There is a capacitor that holds enough power to keep the clocks power for a limited time. So who knows. 75c replay mode works perfectly on the five I have. As usual a good atty with a stable build is a must. Hope this helps....JT Oh, nice bikes by the way.

To change the color of the pictures it is best to try to use the white pictures in your controls. Trying to change the color of a picture that has color has either no visible effect or odd results. Sometimes the odd result is nice, so it's worth trying. The example below shows how to do it. Enjoy JT

I forgot to say. You can resize any picture in theme designer as shown below. Enjoy JT

Almost...................Its a start. Enjoy JT 250c ---- 250.ecigtheme