Dragonlore Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 I just got the Lost Vape Paranormal. the issue is that the battey never shows 100%. fresh fully charged batteries (vtc 5, 6, lg hg2, sammy 30Q) that show 4.2 on the charger (D4) only register 98% in mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francescorpione Posted September 17, 2017 Report Share Posted September 17, 2017 1 ora fa, Dragoonlore ha scritto: I just got the Lost Vape Paranormal. the issue is that the battey never shows 100%. fresh fully charged batteries (vtc 5, 6, lg hg2, sammy 30Q) that show 4.2 on the charger (D4) only register 98% in mod. Also for my new Therion bf is the same. I charge the battery directly on the box.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embe71 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) Well, then it's just not 100% in reality: 4.2 V is rounded up anyway and there in most cases there is a certain amount of discharge/not completely charged when charging because you don't hit the perfect spot to stop. I get "99%" from time to time and think it's pretty accurate using a curve for my LGs. Edited September 18, 2017 by embe71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlore Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I disagree. The DNA 75c, is the only thing that has that issue, every other device and even check with a millimeter that is extremely accurate (.1 %) and the batteries are at 4.21-4.23 on all batteries tried. in the mod nothing ever goes above 98%, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz_60 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 The % level you see on the device & in Escribe is an estimate & it is calculated using the battery discharge profile (.csv), which is generated by running the 'Battery Analyzer' in Escribe. If you are using the default .csv or a .csv file you acquired from someone else, then the % level will probably be off a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlore Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 It seems to me that 2 things a device would have to be able to do before a discharge curve would even matter is to accurately read voltage. It also seems that a high end board should be able to do so closer than 2%. Even without running the battery analyzer, the device should know that 4.2 is 100%, and that 2.75 is 0% (default in escribe) everything in between should be the estimated %, and where the discharge curve would be beneficial for the specific battery. Different batteries discharge at different rates but 4.2 is 100% for all of them. Just trying to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz_60 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I can manually adjust the .csv file to reflect 50% level even though the cells are fully charged. The board uses the .csv file to estimate the % level from 100% on down, not the voltage level...so if the .csv file is not correct for your cells, you will get an inaccurate % level... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlore Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I just seems to me it should still be smart enough to know that 4.2 is 100% on it's own without any other input. I understand it gets it's info from a csv file. but if the csv is set to 4.19 as being 100% then shouldn't it show 100% charge at 4.2? In order for the device to show 100% charge I would have to set the csv to 4.08 to be 100%. That seems weird to me. I still seems to me a high end board should be more accurate out of the box without all the extra fiddling. I'm only talking about 100%/ full charge. The device reads a fully charged 4.21 battery as 4.11 (shown in sys diag). so even taking the % out of the equation it doesn't seem accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giz_60 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I own 4 different external charges & a small army of DNA devices...I can take the same battery & get a different voltage/percentage level reading on every charger compared to any of the DNA devices. I can run a cell down to say 10-15%, according to the mod, put it in one charger & get 0% reading...and another maybe 2 or 3%. I personally trust the DNA board myself because of the fact that every external charger gives me a different reading, where as the DNA's are pretty consistent when using the same .csv file on them. The % on the device is intended to give you an idea of battery level left, but has absolutely no effect on the operation/functionality of the device...until your cell starts running low & hitting the CSC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlore Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 leaving % out. I've mainly been interested in it's voltage read. the voltmeter I have is accurate within +/- .1%. and the battery reads 4.21, the dna board reads as 4.11. so even at -.1% (approx. 4.19) would mean the device has an accuracy of +/- 2 % (approx. 4.11) that seems like a lot to me. As you said you can set anything manually to be 100% (as well as any point in the curve), but the device still bases that % on the voltage. the curve just says blank %= blank volts. So even though I can tell it 4.06 volts = 20%, it still needs to be able to accurately read the 4.06v within a reasonable tolerance. I guess I had maybe expected too much? just seems like a voltage leak somewhere. Thanks for the help giz_60, I appreciate your efforts to calm my busy mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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