Triiiple Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 My device seems to work with temp control, but when I fire my RDA with titanium it gets really hot and burnt like at 100-200°F so them temp control is almost pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaquith Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 What exact wire? (please post link)What exact TFR CSV file are your loading in Escribe?By default only Ni200 is installed into the DNA's firmware, and most Titanium will create 'burning / burnt taste' around 250° F ~320° F. You need to select the correct Titanium from - http://www.steam-engine.org/wirewiz.asp Titanium Grade 1 is listed as 'Titanium 1' in the Wire Builder section.Here's a good interactive Tutorial - http://www.evolvapor.com/guide/story.html scroll down to the bottom section 'Custom TCR's.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triiiple Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm using sweet spot vapes .5 Ti wire (http://www.sweetspotvapors.com/product_p/tiw0.5.htm) and I am using the corresponding CSV file for that sweet spot vapes wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaquith Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 The 0.4 mm CSV file is way off so don't use it, but the 0.5 mm version 2 posted on their website works fine. However, one major coiling problem is long leads, personally I wouldn't recommend any longer than 3-4 mm. Verify you're using this CSV https://www.dropbox.com/s/i9s5ca32cgxao08/SSV%20Ti-Wire%200.5mm%20Ver.2.csv?dl=0 From http://www.sweetspotvapors.com/category_s/1856.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triiiple Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Ok, I will try it with that CSV file, I think I had version 1, and I will check my leads and get back to the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triiiple Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 My device still runs hot at low temps.. Here is my graph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaquith Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Are you certain you have the CSV file loaded and the correct Profile selected on your Mod? Reason I say this is because so many people are using the Ni200 standard profile, not understanding how to load to Escribe and upload a Profile to their Mod, and the evidence is 250-320° F is very hot on Titanium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triiiple Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yes I loaded the correct one and I'm on the right profile, I am certain. As of now my device won't use any type of TC and it thinks my Ti is kanthal. Do I need to add something to the "special" tab on Escribe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retird Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Now that it is not doing TC can you post a screen capture of the General tab with the profile you are using showing and a Device Monitor capture of it firing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triiiple Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Temp is working again except it gets too warm around 130°F.. Same problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triiiple Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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retird Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Any better at about 24 watts? Wonder why your temperature is so much lower that your setting of 420F in the graph? Spaced coil with no hot spots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaquith Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Looking at your graph it appears like the Power (Watts) is set too low, for testing I set mine up to 100W the coils require ~60W (see the Power settle around ~53W). You're not even reaching the Set Temperature of 420F. Now IF it's way too hot and the Profile is properly uploaded then that leaves the Ohm's not correctly Locking. For a trial either select the [X] Ohms Locked once the Atty settles to room temperature ~5-6 minutes or preferred -- upload the settings again and choose the '+' New Coil. If an Atty gets locked at a resistance higher then the Mod actually thinks it's cooler than it actually is and the temps can get very hot.Additionally, I'm posting (2) CSV files that have a cooler profile than Sweet Spot and you might want to try them - http://www.filedropper.com/sweetspottcvfilesjaquithLet me know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triiiple Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I do not have a spaced coil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaquith Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Triiiple said:I do not have a spaced coil Well that can certainly cause hot spots, and if you carefully pull on both ends you can separate the coils even with cotton. Otherwise rewick and use your fingernails with your 'coiler' tool. I've built them both ways, spaced is best but on Titanium it generally doesn't hot spot much. Worst is an overlapping coil. So is it working now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triiiple Posted December 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Spaced coils still do not work and it's a good build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaquith Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Did you try my CSV files?? Also run the Atty Analyzer, if the change is more that +/- 0.005 Ohm then you have the beginning of a resistance issue. Also some Atty's, especially RTA's, eg Kayfun V4's and there are others have extremely poor resistance stability. Q - What Atty is your build on?? Have you tried SSV wire on an RDA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triiiple Posted December 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I'm building on the vortice v2 and yes I have a resistance issue mine is moving more than .005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaquith Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Remove the Atty, if you have some Isopropyl alcohol clean the 510 on both the Atty and the Vapor Shark including the positive. You can use a Qtip but blow it out afterwards. Retighten the post screws, they have to be tight to almost the point of clipping the wires but not cutting the leads. If there's an adjustable 510 then screw it on tight. Next I'd first do a cotton burn with scraps to test at 450° F before wicking. The final wicking should be rather tight under the coil, using Kanthal is different, this helps stabilize the TC on the coil. However, Sweet Spot Vapors Ti has a flaw, long leads will GLOW so I do full wraps with perpendicular 90 degree bends off the back of the coil and keep cotton off the leads! Examples SSV Ti glowing leads http://i.imgur.com/c4skTVD.jpg 90 degree coil http://i.imgur.com/GFq8BZ3.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Triiiple Posted December 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Is this better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triiiple Posted December 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Ok, I did the dry wick test 100 watts 450F and it did not burn the cotton at all it worked as intended. After re-wicking and adding juice the TC stopped working... Ohms jumping around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaquith Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Keep in mind I don't own that RDA, but I looked at some of the images. As I mentioned the posts must be tight, and I noticed the positive has what appears to be a hex screw which is equally as important. I assume everything's tight and the positive post won't budge if pressure is put on it. I also assume you have another Atty to try, so I'd find one where you can build a single coil to try. Question - is your Atty a Clone or Authentic? Does the SSV wire work okay on a different Atty? It seems apparent the problem isn't in either the Vapor Shark, Evolv or the SSV wire and it's your Vortice V2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triiiple Posted December 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I think you looked at the wrong vortice, I have no hex screws just two post screws. I will try with a different Atty and see. My vortice is authentic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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