Watts Increments @ >10W

[JoeBingo]

Just this week I received a Cthulhu Sentinel with a DNA 60C

I'm a tootle vaping rebuilder and running a Kayfun Lite (2019) RTA

The build is 30 gauge A1 Kanthal on 2mm @ 1.8ohms

I vape 50/50 PG/VG 18mg nic 1.8 ohms @ 6-7 Watts

Obviously the DNA 60C is overkill for my vaping style.

That said, I would like to see a service pack update that allows increments of 0.2 Watts or at least 0.5 Watt increments when vaping under 10 Watts.

Right now the increments in the Watt profile are set to one(1) whole Watt with each press of the +/- buttons.

I'm new to eScribe and have not found any settings to change the Watt Increment behavior. 

[JoeBingo]

Nothing to do with Evolv but just to add that the juice I vape is non-flavored 50/50 18mg

I was a smoker for over 54 years (72 now) and the vape configuration I've chosen is as close as I can get to a replacement.

Not a cloud chaser or into flavors. It's all about nic delivery for me. 

[dwcraig1]

While not what your asking for here's what you could do to achieve the desired result. In EScribe create a profile for each wattage setting. Perhaps name them for example 6.2 watts, 6.5 watts, ect. Be sure to change all selected profiles material to watts and upload to device. Be sure to have boost set to zero unless you want it added.

I hope this helps.

[JoeBingo]

Thanks @dwcraig1 for the valuable suggestion !!! This EScribe newbie will have to play around with that idea.

Just the suggestion gets my wheels turning and thinking maybe I can change the field in the existing Watt profile and save it.

But at the end of the day, I would like to change Watts in smaller increments on the fly rather than drag out my Windows laptop and hookup the Sentinel each time I want to change fractions of a Watt.

Yes, drag out my (old and slow) Windows Laptop. I hate Windows. My desktop computer is running Linux Mint LMDE 7 (so, Linux).

I have in fact figured out how to dumb down my theme in ESCribe and hide unused or not needed profiles.

Right now I only have two(2) screens on my DNA 60C. A lock screen and a main screen that only shows ohms, watts and battery level. That's all I need.

There are a few other changes I'd like to see in the Evolv software:

For one, I'd like to be able to run in total stealth mode and peek at the main screen with one quick press of the fire button only when needed.

Oh and another thing I'd like to see is ohms updated as soon as I attach an atomizer.

Right now I have changed the theme in EScribe to update ohms while firing but I'd like to see the DNA 60C circuitry query the atomizer routinely rather than only during firing. 

Edited 16 hours ago by JoeBingo

[JoeBingo]

Overall, my impression is that Evolv has all their eggs in one basket with the DNA 60C and cater to the TC cloud & flavor chase crowd with little concern for the low watt Kanthal tootle vape guys.

It is what it is I guess. I'm just trying to adapt it to my needs. Thankfully so far I can call it good ... but not awesome.

Edited 16 hours ago by JoeBingo

[dwcraig1]

Once you get it setup in EScribe you will be able to switch between the profiles on the go. That will give you up to 8 different wattage settings.

[JoeBingo]

AH ... another good point & suggestion @dwcraig1 !!! Thank you. I hadn't looked at it in exactly that way.

That still only allows for 8 settings. Should be enough ... IF the Evolv software actually calibrates and delivers to a fraction of a Watt ... 6, 6.2, 6.4 ... 7, 7.2 etc etc for example.

Edited 16 hours ago by JoeBingo

[dwcraig1]

2 minutes ago, JoeBingo said:

AH ... another good point & suggestion @dwcraig1 !!! Thank you. I hadn't looked at it in exactly that way.

That still only allows for 8 settings. Should be enough ... IF the Evolv software actually calibrates and delivers to a fraction of a Watt ... 6, 6.2, 6.4 ... 7, 7.2 etc etc for example.

It does.

[JoeBingo]

Thanks @dwcraig1 

[JoeBingo]

@dwcraig1 ... What I just now tried in EScribe ...

By default as the device arrived, my Watts profile is profile 2 in EScribe.

In the Settings > Power field of that profile, I changed the value to 6.5W

Then I uploaded settings to device ...

The DNA 60C display on my Cthulhu Sentinel immediately showed 7W ... the Evolv software rounded up a half watt. Hmmm

... thinking out loud, but maybe there's a setting somewhere in EScribe about how it handles decimal places or something ... dunno 🤷‍♂️

[dwcraig1]

What wattage does it show in Device Monitor when set with half watt settings? I did it with a DNA60 and it showed the half watt on the screen. I also did it with a DNA80C, set to 14.5  watts it showed 14 watts on the screen but 14.5 watts in Device Monitor. I also tried it with a DNA250 and got the same results as the DNA60.

[JoeBingo]

Good call @dwcraig1 and you nailed it.

When set to 6.5W in the EScribe profile, the vape device I'm using and Evolv hardware displays 7W.

But when I check Device Monitor in EScribe and take a pull, Current Puff Power is ~6.5W

So for device display, the actual power setting is rounded to a whole number but the device is still powered IAW profile setting as proven by Device Monitor.

Good call. Thank you for following up on this. 

[JoeBingo]

One other thing of note @dwcraig1 ...

If while in that profile I've set to 6.5W, I happen to manually change the wattage on the device with the +/- buttons ... the device will not go back to the 6.5W. It will fire at the whole number for which I've manually selected.

Consequently I will need to configure a profile for any partial watt value and remember not to manually adjust the wattage on the device ... change the profile on the device instead. If that makes sense.

Edited 14 hours ago by JoeBingo

[JoeBingo]

@dwcraig1 ... thank you for all your patience and help. I'll have to fiddle with everything a bit more, but I've learned I can dial in a virtually perfect vape for me.

I'm real close now. Just need to sort behavior of Evolv software and hardware.

Couldn't have done it without EScribe or without your help. Thanks !!!

I'm done for tonight. It's late and I'm old HA

[dwcraig1]

I think that if you change the wattage up to a whole number and want to change it back try this: Either go to select a profile and select the one that you are using or select a different one then go back and select the original profile. I think reselecting the existing profile will probably return it to your settings.

[dwcraig1]

So once that you familiar yourself with EScribe you might want to start checking out the boost feature. Very likely you will be able to tailor your desired vape with it. 

[Wayneo]

10 hours ago, JoeBingo said:

I'm new to eScribe and have not found any settings to change the Watt Increment behavior. 

These changes and most of what you wish for are found in/under Theme -> Theme Designer -> Screens. Although 'watts' are in 3 places, you should only need to change the Main Page. Easiest way IMHO is to Highlight the field, click options, choose 1 decimal and then the step size to 1 or 2 for point 1 or point 2. Enable 'don't show units'. Click OK. Or if you want to see the W you can go change the font size.

You can actually setup conditions such as watts > 10 increment by .5, watts > 20 step by 1, etc. but that's more complicated (and has been done in other themes)

I'll address your other wish list items later, or 'search works' better with 'all' better than 'any' (click the magnifying glass.

[JoeBingo]

Thanks @dwcraig1 and @Wayneo for sorting me out on this. Greatly appreciate it !!!

[JoeBingo]

3 hours ago, Wayneo said:

You can actually setup conditions such as watts > 10 increment by .5, watts > 20 step by 1, etc. but that's more complicated (and has been done in other themes)

Is there maybe a downloadable theme here that I might be able to temporarily upload to my device just to see / copy how they did it?

EDIT: @Wayneo ... nevermind. Actually your pointing me to the Power Options Settings in themes allows me to do EXACTLY what I need to do for my theme. Thank you sir

Edited 3 hours ago by JoeBingo

[JoeBingo]

Now if I can only figure out how to set something so that the DNA 60C circuitry queries the atomizer routinely for resistance rather than only during firing.

In other words, when I attach an atomizer, the display should automatically show the current coil resistance rather than all zeros ... until I fire.

[Wayneo]

14 hours ago, JoeBingo said:

Right now I only have two(2) screens on my DNA 60C. A lock screen and a main screen that only shows ohms, watts and battery level. That's all I need.

............   For one, I'd like to be able to run in total stealth mode and peek at the main screen with one quick press of the fire button only when needed.

I think you need at least a 'New atomizer' screen. The mod, depending on what was written into a profile and the variance detected now writes that new value into your profile or leaves the old. So I'd say 3 screens. 

Stealth mode has 3 options (Like where I showed above 'Atomizer Power' Above) there are 2 for stealth.
The options for stealth level are 'Off', '1', '2', or '3'.
Off = Stealth mode is disabled
1 = Dim
2 = Very dim
3 = Screen turns off

You'll need to play around to see which you prefer. Years ago in my old tired mind, I think I used a toggle with the 1st field, on something totally unrelated like a battery icon. 

 

[Wayneo]

1 hour ago, JoeBingo said:

Is there maybe a downloadable theme here that I might be able to temporarily upload to my device just to see / copy how they did it?

There are many DNA60C themes under their Downloads tab. A good designer at a minimum would have written what features are included, some might just show the word. You don't need to upload to your mod initially. Download, and just start Theme Designer, open that file you saved, or even just double click  on the saved file. You can use any color theme you wish to learn, beware their features might not be available for your board type.