rsandage Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Hello Modders' I just replaced the 250C screen and board in my Hadron Pro, and everything soldered up nicely(first time really soldering) and plugged my LiPo battery in and everything came up. I noticed that withOUT my SC Ragnar tank on the mod, the resistance is showing at .66 ohms. ive done nothing more then solder, assemble, and connect it to a battery, then to my pc for escribe. so here's my questions. 1 Why am i see the .66 ohm on the mod without an atomizer? and where do i need to look? 2, Escribe is showing a SP update to 1.1 SP55.5 US, will this possible help with the issues in #1? Any help is appreciated. and if you need to see anything or know anything, ill provide what i can. Thanks Again Richie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcraig1 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 I'm not sure but I pulled the atty off my 250C and on the screen it still said 0.4 ohms. Did you tell it to measure again? What does Atomizer Analyzer in EScribe say with no atty connected? It should have a question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayneo Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 6 minutes ago, rsandage said: 1 Why am i see the .66 ohm on the mod without an atomizer? and where do i need to look? You have 8 profiles where the ohms and temp are written in case you set them up that way. You're seeing that with no atty. 9 minutes ago, rsandage said: 2, Escribe is showing a SP update to 1.1 SP55.5 US, will this possible help with the issues in #1? No, but whaetver firmware you choose you should use the International version (more features) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsandage Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 @Wayneo Thanks, i didnt notice that the ohms on the first profile were already set it on escribe, so that fixes that. i think that im going to have to search out the int 55.1 SP as i dont see it in the list of SP's available to me thru escribe. what are the more features that i would get? do they make that much more available over the US version? thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcraig1 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 https://www.evolvapor.com/escribe No need to uninstall your current version, just install Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsandage Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 so now ive noticed that it doesn't seem to be charging my new batteries. Ovonic 4S Lipo 1300mah, I will link them after. From what i can see, all my solder joints are done properly, and the balance port as well, again from what i can see. How do i check to see if its charging or can charge? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B096K45KMB?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcraig1 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Use EScribes Device Monitor, note current voltage of each cell.If one or more is way lower it will not charge. If below 2.5 volts it willnot charge. Report back your findings. Also make sure that you have it set for 4 cells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsandage Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 so this is what i see when Device Monitor is active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcraig1 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 OK, there it is, cell #4 is out of balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcraig1 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 In EScribe under "Tools/ Diagnostics/ Perform USB Charging Recovery. This is a very slow process. Note that you are currently charging a 0.199 amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsandage Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 i believe i found the root problem, which i didnt check. so im chalking it up to being blond. I did not check to make sure that all my solder points and areas around such were clean and clear. if you look at the board temp, that give the first clue as to what is going on. I didnt check the soldering around the 510 pads at the top of the board. I took a few pictures with my phone, and i have a crossing connection. so it looks like ill be resoldering the top again. hopefully this will clear up some / or all of the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcraig1 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 I'm not seeing any problem with board temp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsandage Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 i will get some pictures of the area that im unsure on my soldering or that i think there might be a "short" possible. when i had the battery in and it was plugged in to my pc, just after that screenshot of the device monitor, i was smelling hot solder and see the temp get up to 102. give me a bit and i will add some pictures to let others see if they can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsandage Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 here are the best shot i can get of the 510 soldering points. am i the only one that thinks i can see a piece of solder that's laying a crossed the white line there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcraig1 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 What does Atomizer Analyzer read with no atomizer attached? Also do you happen to have a stand alone charger for 18650 batteries. If so I'll tell you how to use it to bring up the voltage on that #4 cell. I was also wondering if you have a volt/ohm meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsandage Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 that's the thing. My battery (a 4S lipo) isnt being seen/read by the board. neither is any atomizer i attached. I have a secondary mod that reads the atomizer with no issue. the charger i have for my lipos is i believe dying, so im not able to charge my lipos there. I believe i have an ohm meter somewhere. so, right now the primary issue would be getting the board to read both an attached battery, and attached atomizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcraig1 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 14 hours ago, rsandage said: so this is what i see when Device Monitor is active. The board is seeing the battery but it refuses to use it because of cell #4 being out of balance. Again, what does Atomizer Analyzer read with no atomizer attached? It appears that you just might have two problems. So what about that charger for 18650 batteries, do you have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsandage Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 this is what it shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcraig1 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 That's what it should show. That indicates also that there is no short between output and ground. And with an atomizer installed what does it show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsandage Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 i know seeing my monitor in the background is a bit difficult, but you can see the ? in there (i think/hope). so with an atomizer attached i get the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcraig1 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Try this: connected to atomizer analyzer short the output and ground for the 510 using a screwdriver or wire and see if you can get it to read something. (the spot that you suspected a solder bridge) Edit: The board must be powered with battery for this to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsandage Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 So using a pre-built coil to create the short in the output gnd connection, while watching Atomizer Analyzer, there was no change to the ohms. then using a screwdriver, and no change. so what's that mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwcraig1 Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 I would say defective board then. Could have been defective from the start or possibly from excessive heat from soldering. Open a ticket here with Evolv: https://helpdesk.evolvapor.com/index.php?a=add&category=1 I suspect they will replace it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayneo Posted December 10 Report Share Posted December 10 Dude is that 510 positive able to move up and down if you push it with a screwdriver. If it's stuck down it won't make a connection. You might wanna test a few more attys. Usually if you see 5-11 puffs on a brand new mod, that shows the board was tested before being sent to you. Actually all boards are tested before shipping. EDIT: You might be able to push the positive up from the inside of the mod, which is probably the easiest, to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsandage Posted December 10 Author Report Share Posted December 10 (edited) Wayneo, Yes i can push the positive pin from on top of the 510 (like an atomizer would be attached to it) and on the under side, it returns to flush when i let up pressure from a screwdriver. but i can't push up from underneath. I hope thats what you're having me do. EDIT : The board i purchased was to replace the board that came with my Hadron Pro. So the non-board soldering was not touched. Edited December 10 by rsandage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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