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On 12/8/2022 at 7:26 PM, James said:
I've posted up EScribe Suite SP50. It has newer firmwares for DNA 60 and Cricket. Let me know how it works for you!
Enjoy
James
Just installed SP50 on MacOS Sierra 10.12, opened fine, loaded previous settings, will test further. Now I’m waiting for my just ordered Cricket! Thanks for the continued support for a really old MACOS.
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46 minutes ago, James said:
@mactavish: I just tested on MacOS Sierra 10.12. I got it working, and am making an update right now.
That’s FANTASTIC, I can’t upgrade my 2011 MacBook Pro beyond High Sierra, but am trying to stick with Sierra. Appreciate the support for OLD systems and hardware. A shame the Apple App Store does not allow “vape apps”, as my iPad mini is new and can be updated.
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James,
What is the minimum MACOS will this latest version work on?
I’m still on “SIERRA” 12.10.Thanks.
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On 8/19/2021 at 5:40 PM, James said:
If anyone would like to try these experimental versions, let me know how they work for you!
US version: https://downloads.evolvapor.com/SetupEScribe2_2021-08-19_SP29_US.pkg
International version: https://downloads.evolvapor.com/SetupEScribe2_2021-08-19_SP29_INT.pkg
Is there a page with some info on how this experimental version is different or better in some way? Personally, with my old 12.x OS, I’m not interested in beta testing, the now last/old version is working fine. Just curious if this new version is for newer OS’s mostly, which I may need someday, when I upgrade my hardware. Thanks.
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The OP is 100% correct. No selection of inexpensive SINGLE battery, NON squonk mods with the DNA75c chipset. I bought the Mirage (love the single 21700 bats), when it first came out, fairly long time ago now, and started googling for other brands, with similar specs, I waited a few months, kept checking weekly, then monthly, and eventually I’ve given up. I lost count of all the Chinese DNA75 (non-color) mods I own. I realize the color version of just the board is more expensive, but it sure seems odd to me that they are so scarce. So, it was either the cost, or little demand for ones like the Mirage, or as some have speculated, Evolve has a different policy compared to the original 75 chip. I don’t know, and stopped caring, in the end it actually helped me stop buying more mods, as I know what I liked, and don’t see anything inexpensive to match. Saving money is good, I’m certainly not short on mods. If you have the budget for high end mods, that’s great, but not the point the OP was making. I asked a similar question probably over a year ago, here someplace, as I was curious why there were so few choices, like there was for single 18650 mods. Oh well, enjoy what you have!
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Thanks, look forward to the 40T results.
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There were a lot more single battery DNA75 mods to choose from. With the DNA75C board it seems the Chinese have balked at the higher price of the board. It’s been about a year and there are very few inexpensive mods using a DNA75C. I bought a Mirage long ago, it was over $100, not many other choices even in that price range. There are of course high end expensive mods, and some more choices if you squonk. I can only assume it’s the price of the board, I have many Chinese DNA75 mods, and they were very affordable. I’ll just keep using the Mirage with single 21700 batteries. It’s too bad, I was hoping there would be more choices out there for non squonkers, in single batteries. I won’t buy any HCigar products, so I rule that one out.
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USB cables are also a factor when going to higher outputs. Though in this case an under rated 1amp cable should still charge the mod, just at the slower rate. Worth trying another cable assuming you have a 2amp high data rate one? You may have tried this already. I don’t own this model mod, but have a few 2amp mods.
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I can’t help you myself, but unless you truly love that theme, why not try one that has REPLAY configured properly in the meantime? Here is a popular one, many downloads, the author keeps it up to date and is very responsive and helpful. I’m using it, no issues. Good luck!
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Some of you may have seen some of my posts about the “temp protect” message which was standard on most DNA boards before the COLOR versions. Since I liked it, and have been unable to ever see it on my DNA75C, I wrote James (Evolv), he is what he said:
“Interesting, looking at the code you're right. Temp Protected only throws on Color as an error for overshoot/out-of-control and Ohms out-of-range. I don't have it operating as a warning. I've added that option to my To-Do list.”
So perhaps the posters problem is related to one of those other errors. I vape TC all the time, I’m sure I’ve hit my temperature, but have NEVER seen a TP message on my color mod.
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1 hour ago, JRH78 said:
Yes service pack sp15 intl
After installing SP15, did you upgrade the mods firmware? In Escribe, you should see an upgrade message, as you need from firmware page: SP33.2!
--- DNA 75 Color (firmware 1.1 SP33.2) ---
Replay (International Edition only). To use Replay:
(1) Apply the Service Pack.
(2) Choose a profile to put Replay on. Check "Use Replay on this profile", and name it how you like. (For most people, the easiest way to use Replay is to choose a profile whose material is Watts.)
(3) Load on a theme with Replay support. (The default theme has Replay support. Go to the Theme tab and click Default Theme, and upload.) -
Are you using the stock Evolv theme and current firmware?
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4 minutes ago, hawk256 said:
Make sure you are using stainless steel wire.
Any approved TC wire should work as well. SS, Titanium, Nickel, etc.
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and BTW, using REPLAY in a TC PROFILE, might not limit the temperature to what you set. I constantly monitor the on mod graphs, and in my TC SS316L profile, running REPLAY, I see in the graph screen, 23 Watts, and TWO temperature recordings, I assume a high and low, of 444F, and 477F, while my temp setting is at 465F. A lot more going on here then we may assume.
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1 minute ago, ruckus said:
"3rd technique" is simply using replay with a coil material selected so the board can monitor temp.
Using temp control & replay at the same time defeats the purpose in my opinion.. one you set by taste the other by temp - they essentially do the same thing by trying to meet conditions set by you.
If your using replay WITH temp control active, replay is going to try replicate your saved puff - temp control is going to kick in and limit it...
You mentioned if you disable temp control on your temp profile it's super hot vape - most likely active preheat/boost settings come to think of it.
Ok, so it’s my mistake in misinterpreting your earlier post. You like to use REPLAY in the mode it was intended for, WATTS mode. I have a profile setup for that, and in the “materials” drop down in Escribe, it’s set for WATTS. You have your reasons why you don’t believe it’s appropriate to use REPLAY in a TC mode where one sets the temperature. I’m playing with both, there is no 3rd option/workaround, so now we are clear, and I apologize for my misunderstanding of your earlier post.
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2 minutes ago, ruckus said:
That's right.. in themes we refer to the setting as "temp protection" in escribe the exact same setting is referred to as "temprature".
What makes the wattage profile a wattage profile is disabling this option.. so by you saying your getting difference experiences while this option is disabled on what you consider your temp control profile compared to your wattage profile makes no sense because by disabling "temp protection" your turning your temp control profile into a wattage profile.
Hopefully that makes sense... if your still confused - plug your device into escribe so you can compare both your profiles in real time and you'll see exactly what I'm saying... turn off "temp protect" on your device and plug your device in.
I’m only confused in your earlier post where you said: “If you activate replay mode while temp protection is disabled, replay can now begin governing power delivery without temp control interrupting and getting in the way.” I now assume you are talking about profiles, and not trying to turn OFF TP in the mod, which is possible, and a bit unpredictable. So we are back to the beginning. Two ways to use REPLAY, in WATTS mode, with TP OFF, in the Escribe profile which should be obvious to most. And REPLAY with a TC profile where you set the temperature, and let Replay do the computing.
I guess I misunderstood your earlier post, that you were using a 3rd technique. The confusion is how we are using the term TP.
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1 minute ago, ruckus said:
Sorry that makes no sense to me to be honest... if you disable temp protection/temp in escribe your pretty much are in WATTS mode.. "temp protection" is what the setting is referred to on the device / "temperature" is what that exact same setting is referred to on escribe.
I think what your experiencing is a placebo effect... because by disabling temperature in escribe your literally have setup a duplicate wattage mode - the only difference is you have selected a wire material so the board can measure temp.
I don’t have to be in Escribe to turn TP = OFF. That setting is available in the theme I’m using. I’m just trying to duplicate your theory that one can use REPLAY in a TC profile, but with TP = OFF, if that’s NOT your theory, I’m sorry, and don’t understand what you are doing. For me to go any further, please tell me exactly what modes and settings you are using and then I’ll try and duplicate it.
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18 hours ago, ruckus said:
Well if you disable temp protection, the temp you have set is irrelevant.. the specified temp is only considered if temp protection is active.
Now your SS316 profile all of a sudden is behaving very similar to wattage mode while temp protection is disabled, however with the addition of TCR/temp feedback.
If you activate replay mode while temp protection is disabled, replay can now begin governing power delivery without temp control interrupting and getting in the way.
Tried this as an experiment. Using a SS TC profile, with REPLAY ON. My SET TEMP = 465F, (in the theme I’m using, I can set the Watts for TC in “settings” = 40w). Vape is good, Replay works. Same coil, REPLAY now in WATTS mode, SET to 25 watts, works the same.
Now, turn TEMP PROTECT = OFF. Back to original “SS TC profile, with REPLAY ON. My SET TEMP = 465F”, vape is TOO HOT. Back into settings, to reduce wattage to 25 watts, now vapes similar to the other tests above.
I think doing TC with REPLAY with TP = OFF, while possible, is just adding more complexity to an already complex formula. I don’t see any plus differences in my vape, while adding more settings to go through. While Evolv could clarify this, I doubt they will comment. Their current stance is REPLAY was designed for wattage mode, with a TC compatible coil, and can work with a temperature control profile, again with the correct TC coils. I’m sure there are odd variations of these combinations, but they should be deemed “user experiment”, like I just did. But hey, if it’s working the way you like, then that’s the bottom line. After my quick experiment, I’ll stick with the two most common implementations of REPLAY in TC and WATTS.
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10 minutes ago, ruckus said:
Well if you disable temp protection, the temp you have set is irrelevant.. the specified temp is only considered if temp protection is active.
Now your SS316 profile all of a sudden is behaving very similar to wattage mode while temp protection is disabled, however with the addition of TCR/temp feedback.
If you activate replay mode while temp protection is disabled, replay can now begin governing power delivery without temp control interrupting and getting in the way.
Interesting, the only time I ever turned off TP, this before REPLAY came out, I was while searching for a Theme that might have the OLD “temp protected” message you used to see on DNA chips. So I saw a on/off switch in this theme, turned TP “OFF” to see what would happen, and boy was I shocked, Temp went super hot and choked me. Then I wrote Evolv, as to what that setting was for, and was told it was sometimes used by a few when they were working with their mods in Escribe, and had nothing to do with the old TP message, which unlike most, I liked. I asked how I could edit a theme to get that message option back, and was told it’s not even in the firmware anymore, so I guess it was really hated.
Seems you found a good use for the on/off TP option, guess it’s worth experimenting with. Thanks for the explanation.
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1 hour ago, ruckus said:
I think we need to shift our way of thinking when using replay on temp control profile.. I know I personally did.
Rather then using temp protection and focusing on limiting a specific temp we should hand the reigns over to replay, we still get the benefit of additional temp stats in our monitoring however replay is determining the appropriate temp in the given situation.. I am curious tho, do TCR's and wire type play a role with replay ?
When replay initially came out this is what confused me the most, what's the advantage of replay in temp control if I have a set specific temperature limit? What am I gaining exactly? I realized I was using replay wrong.. after discovering replay itself prevents cotton charring this really opened my eyes to the simplicity.
I'm planning on modifying my personal theme to no longer be so focused around temp as a means of adjusting the vape experience while replay is active on a profile.. because simply put it no longer is.
Your message confuses me. If you are using TC with Replay, how are you not setting a temp and “handing the reigns over to Replay”?
Or have you switched over to Replay in a Watts power mode? You say you were using Replay “wrong”, how are you using it now? Thanks!
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11 hours ago, nagaraka said:
I doubt that in Replay mode and TC you get the same behaviour you would get with TC by itself. With TC you set a T limit and perhaps a preheat. When you draw a puff, first prehat will be applied for the time set, unless the coil reaches the T limit earlier than this; then chosen power will be maintained, except if the coil resistivity rises to the limit. In which case the chip will try to keep that limit.
In Replay you choose to play a puff which might have started at a given resistivity and ended at a certain level above that. The chip would then strive to replicate that. But when you draw next puff you may have your coil cooler or hotter than your previous starting point. That's why I always get the impression that the initial boost is different from one draw to the next. You can check out on the Device Monitor: the Power applied varies quite frantically, whilst the chip is trying to replicate the various values of resistivity at a given time of the puff.
That behaviour will never happen in regular TC mode, where the power applied will always be the same, unless the coil reaches its T limit.
Interesting theory. I’ve been using TC for a long time now, it was never that challenging for me, but I can understand that many VW vapers may have been put off by some of the extra learning curve.
I’m still playing with REPLAY, as a wattage profile as recommended, but also using REPLAY in my stainless steel TC profile. I have not noticed any flavor differences. It may be my current wicking, but so far Replay seems “choppy”, getting more spits and pops, but Replay in TC mode is “smooth”. Perhaps it’s just the wick. Trouble going back and forth, is even if the ohms are locked in TC mode, something I never do normally, when I switch to wattage Replay, I’m asked to confirm ohms, sometimes I can say NO, it’s the same, and other times I have to let it reread the atty, but since it’s hot, I have to wait till it cools. None of that is a big deal as I’m only in test mode, wouldn’t normally be switching back and forth.
While I see some of the advantages of Replay for many, for experienced TC vapers it’s fun to play with. I’m going to keep using Replay in TC mode, and there is a small advantage doing it over watt replay, if you like to check your last puff graph, you get the temperature red line on the graph, you only get the power watts green line in Watts Replay, at least in the theme I’m using, which I believe is set up correctly in this regard.
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This thread is insane.
THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS ASKING THE SAME QUESTION OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS
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Indeed, image how folks feel being on a waiting list for 1-2 years might feel, I know of two friends in that situation, I doubt Elon answers his emails regarding release dates anymore, since they don’t mean anything in reality. While I look forward to playing with REPLAY, I don’t think it’s going to change my life dramatically, and the downside is, I already don’t like using any of my now “older” DNA’s with trying to remember what button combos do what. After using my one DNA75 COLOR mod, it’s almost painful to use the old ones.
Early Firmware and EScribe Suite Discussion Thread
in EScribe, Software and Firmware
Posted · Edited by mactavish
Anyone try the this new release on Mac OS 10.13.6. My 2011 MacbookPro, can’t update beyond High Sierra. THANKS!
Could not find any info on a DNA80?