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Yeah I didn’t actually hit the fire button on the mod and take a puff, just used the fire for 1 sec while it sat on the desk. I mean I’m open to trying replay. But I’ve been trying to mainly just get any flavor out of using TC. I do like the concept of being able to not burn my cotton. But to get any amount of vapor I’m having to put temp at almost 530 and there’s no flavor somehow up there. Well I’ll do another fresh build with the tabs all the way inserted and see if I a noticeable difference. In the name of science 😭

Yeah I've tried all the way down and like this. Found it as idea on another fourm where he called it out specifically on these Wotofo Mesh coils (although it was the original ones that were for the Profile 1 not the Profile 1.5 spec SUS316L coils I have. It will if I don't just keep hitting the puff command. That first one does on this screenshot. I'm not as much concerned on the "dread mesh dry hit" used to use the Profile PS with dual mesh and didn't like it when it happened but it didn't scar me for life either. Yeah its weird alright. Would figure the temp reading would start lower than it does. 2-3 secs in between puffs I understand won't come to room, but it doesn't drop much at all.

Alright, well I remembered when building that I had swapped out the post screws (for when you wanna build wires on the deck) and that was when I got an accurate read. So I pulled out all the screws for the wires and checked em. Guess 2 of the 8 screws were just a tad shorter than the rest. Cause I just a coil to read at 0.15 when I first inserted. Did a pre-glow, wicked etc. Now its reading at 0.141 stable (never had a reading lower than 0.15 so I"m not mad at all). I also inserted the coil so a bit of the tab is showing as well. will include picture after this post since its on my phone. Here's the puffs. Can record more after the juice soaks a bit more. edit: how my coil is inserted

Alright well lemme build and send some pics and screenshots before I wick it and all that jazz

Yeah gonna try a new build now and try the tab route again. I had 45-55w as my best for watts so any suggestions I guess then? I don't lock the ohms it was just an attempt to trouble shoot by myself and it didn't work of course.

@dwcraig1 Course I took off SS430 so I can’t test it at work right now. Will try it out at home. SUS316L shouldn’t be too much different than SS316L cause it’s just the Japanese grading of SS. I’m kinda appalled that Wotofo hasn’t responded to my 8 support requests on what the hell the TCR should be. Probably my last atomizer from them because it’s just a given someone’s going to want to know that info and they just don’t seem to care 😭

@Wayneo no haha I dont make sure everything is validated. Just had to do some quick research so I can understand how the system works. IT’s unfortunately how my brain works. Like to understand all the mechanisms and aspects of things so I can better diagnose stuff like this. as far as the somewhat better results with the tabs only being inserted: that was the only time I got the 0.15 ohm rating of the coils from the vape (not even using escribe), and I did a pre-glow to make sure it was heating evenly. That set up worked perfectly and thought I had figured it out. Cause that time I could actually get vapor production at 360-390f where as right now the coil is at 0.17 ohms and I’m not getting a satisfying amount of vapor unless I’m at. 540f. Did the watts thing and I’m comfortable at the 45w-55w range. Above that and it starts to get a bit too warm and flavors get muddled.

Forgot the interesting point. I have noticed that if I don't fully insert the mesh I get somewhat better results. Instead of fully inserting I only have the tabs inserted rather than putting the mesh all the way down. Essentially inserted enough that the coil has good contact with the clamps but none of the perforations (or the actual portion of the coil that is "mesh") make contact with the clamps. After doing some quick search and reading the battery issue is pretty much not a thing unless you've all noticed anything in particular there with different brands. will try the watts profile

Is the reason for lowest, as you said battery sag, something with the batteries being low amps or something essentially? (I just like science unfortunately) Middle looks good to me no crazy fluxs So thats an interesting point. Both sides are fully inserted and evenly (I always do a check to make sure my top of mesh is flat as it should be if its fully inserted and doesn't create a high spot for hot spots to develop. Is the low glow an absolute must? I haven't been doing that after reading it could damage the SS. But, I've seen conflicting comments on annealing and first heating to kind of "align" the structure of the metals? I always do a brand new coil by answering yes (but in reality I use Escribe analyzer first and then measure on Escribe and then upload those settings to the device. Sometimes I do with with just the mod and no Escribe. It was Evolv Support! So unfortunately no. I've tossed these coils on other mods and have gotten the 0.15 reading (the only one I have to test is me or my wifes topside Dual). So out of the box the mod read about +-0.02 ohms above the actual coil. After setting the internal resistance this mostly fell in line to getting accurate readings. And after looking at my batteries.... I think they may be apart of the issue. I have Hohm Life batteries and they say lowest resistance is 0.16 LMAO So looks like I need new batteries. Any suggestions? This may fully be my problem. Think I want to try the battery change before I try to cobble together another solution. Rather get all the appropriate ducks in order

Hey Everyone, Been lurking long enough and went back and forth with support as well on how in the hell to make this Thelema and Wotofo Profile X work in TC mode properly. Had some successes mostly frustrations though. Figured I'd bring it up to the larger community and see if we can nail this one in hopes to also have it available easily for future people. Setup: Thelema 250c Wotofo Profile X (this ends up being the profile 1.5 coils/mesh) Wotofo SUS316L Coils (Ohms ~0.15) Using the stock 316 profile and downloaded a 316L profile from Steam Engine Done Case Analyzer correctly (which fixed the cold/ambient temp read a ton was off initially by +- 20 degrees, usually up) Already changed internal mod resistance from stock value of 0.004 to 0.006 (this was at the recommendation of support, lovely gentleman cause I would have told me to just give up and leave me alone) Have tried hard setting ohms, changing internal resistance to get to the ~0.15 ohms (usually reads about 2.2-2.4 above at the stock internal res of 0.004, Have it right now reading 0.166 stable no fluctuation with atomizer analyzer at 0.006 internal res, but vapor production is relatively non-existent until we get up to the 480+ range which just can't be right), but I haven't tried chucking it in a blender but I'm getting close. Whenever I get a cold reading its letting it cool, or when the coil is freshly bent to shape and inserted (so it hasn't been heated and should thus have a correct cold reading). Have had some luck a few times but not consistent enough to actually enjoy the beauty of TC yet. Adding images cause ya'll will ask for em