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9 minutes ago, BillW50 said:
Where do you see 45A? Usually something-A means something-amps in vaping. If you want 400 watts from a quad 18650. Then you want 30A 18650s or better. If you want 250 watts or less, then quad 20A 18650 are fine.
oh my bad forgot the link that was referring to the batteries i was talking about...do they have any good 18650 batteries like these ?
https://www.18650batterystore.com/products/molicel-p42a
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37 minutes ago, BillW50 said:
They have quad 2x700 mods, but they are mech mods without a board. They are also called Hammer of God. The one with the DNA250C board has a DNA400C after the name. Yes, misleading, but you get the idea.
If dropped... its a hunk of aluminum. I never dropped my two, but I would think they would be able to take a lot of abuse. There is really nothing I see that would break or anything. Maybe the plastic window over the screen if it was hit just right. Otherwise there is really nothing.
are there any batteries that are 18650 that are good and have as much MaH as this ? Also what does "45A" mean again? sorry to ask....
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2 hours ago, BillW50 said:
How about a quad 18650? The Hammer of God (HOG) DNA400C uses a DNA250C with an output of 400 watts (with capable cells). They only make a small batch at a time. So if everyone is out of stock, they will usually do another run in a month or two. Be warned, with batteries they weigh about a pound. They are almost all aluminum. I own two of them and I never had a problem with either.
do they have a quad 2x700 version? also what happens if you drop it... will it get all fucked up or stay pretty stable
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used rebel and now I'm using boxer and it's not as sturdy as I thought after normal use.... I could use a better mod that doesn't break after nothing
the main problem with the boxer is with the button... it literally just popped off... with normal use...
any help?
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1 minute ago, BillW50 said:
Well it only is if you want it to be. Most are not interested in how it works, just how it vapes. Like an automobile, you can dive into it and understand how it all works. Or you can just simply learn how to drive it which is much simpler.
yea .....im a thinker type.....i question things to the T so its hard to b like.....ok what am i using without wondering how it even works..Something that drives me deep into my mind sometimes LOL
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5 minutes ago, BillW50 said:
Well most vapers doesn't even know as much as you do now. So you're ahead of the class! And this stuff we are talking about in this thread is pretty advanced.
jeez who knew high tech mods could be such a pain to understand LOL
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i think i understand more now, just not too well.. well thank you for the help
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30 minutes ago, BillW50 said:
Well if you increase power, you increase voltage, resistance (with TC material), and temperature too, so they all go hand in hand. When you decrease power, you decrease voltage, resistance, and temperature. So when you increase warmth, you are warming the coil faster. Of course, once you hit the max temperature setting, it isn't allowed to go higher and power will drop to keep the temperature from going higher.
And you can't say like one bump up in Warmth is 10 watts more power. Nor can you say it is 10° warmer. As it isn't calculated that way. As it is based on a percentage of the power setting looking at the Device Manager. There could be other factors in play in the algorithm. As I don't have the source code and I am sure it is a trade secret anyway. But you can see the effects in the graph. And that is what is important.
what would you say is more effective at upping the power punch or warmth or both?
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26 minutes ago, BillW50 said:
Well if you increase power, you increase voltage, resistance (with TC material), and temperature too, so they all go hand in hand. When you decrease power, you decrease voltage, resistance, and temperature. So when you increase warmth, you are warming the coil faster. Of course, once you hit the max temperature setting, it isn't allowed to go higher and power will drop to keep the temperature from going higher.
And you can't say like one bump up in Warmth is 10 watts more power. Nor can you say it is 10° warmer. As it isn't calculated that way. As it is based on a percentage of the power setting looking at the Device Manager. There could be other factors in play in the algorithm. As I don't have the source code and I am sure it is a trade secret anyway. But you can see the effects in the graph. And that is what is important.
i see, so its not defined well, but either way it makes the mod do something different....i guess i will experiment and see whats up since warmth isn't clearly defined
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1 hour ago, BillW50 said:
The power and temperature didn't change? What were you changing? Warmth? It only has an effect when playing within Replay, just like @Wayneo said. I figured I am going to have to do it for you. Here is Warmth set in the middle, then full, and then off.
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Maybe you don't see a difference, but I sure do. It gives it a boost in power in the beginning the puff. The higher the warmth, the higher it applies more power. When off, power is flat without any extra power at the beginning of the puff.
sorry looking at this is akin to me looking at statistical graphs which im not good at....and yes i was changing warmth soley and nothing really occured. Earlier you said warmth soley changes the temperature part of the mod not the wattage part....but all i wanna know is by how much does the temperature (as you said before, warmth associates with temp) change by each number up. Thats all i am trying to say. I am sorry.
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2 hours ago, BillW50 said:
Do what we have been saying. Run EScribe's Device Manager and change whatever you are curious about and then see how it changes your vape right on the screen. Or are you insisting we do it for you?
dude....as i said before....i did this....no change occured...i feel like im not asking a lot.
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21 hours ago, Wayneo said:
The ONLY thing these or any mods can do is raise or lower wattage. Due to the properties of some coils, mods can be clever in how they do it. AKA Temp control or Replay
Go look back at that 1st image I posted (the official definition for warmth), and read the 4th word. That's your answer. How much varies depending on many variables
There are many good technical reviews out there that you can watch to learn, I like djlsb vapes. It would really help you better understand. Any video about any DNA Color mod.
I have watched those vids
That picture just says it increases power,,,,power as in watts or temp? if its just raising watts how is it literally any different than punch. Its not that hard to get my question. What. Does. It. Raise. Watts or temp or some other variable. Power to me always refers to watts.
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7 hours ago, BillW50 said:
For example, using Frank's Theme under TC (basically the same with EScribe). You can select either Power Preheat or Temperature Preheat. And with Temperature Preheat you also select temperature and power levels. Using Power Preheat, you can set power and punch. As @Wayneo had mentioned, Warmth is available only with Replay.
Every bump up with punch doesn't bump it up by 1°. It doesn't work that way. You're adjusting power, not temperature.
im still not understanding what warmth raises....and by how much does it raise.
I know punch raises wattage. You said earlier warmth raises temp.....but by how much per number .....eg.....1....2.......3 etc.
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12 minutes ago, Wayneo said:
In escribe if you hover of most fields, the actual definition will show. Or you can even try the search feature on this forum ↗️
Here's the official definition for warmth
i read this but i am not sure what warmth actually modifies,,,,watts or temp? and when it goes up by 1 increment is it going up by one degree or watts. Thats all im trying ta ask mahn
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34 minutes ago, BillW50 said:
No, it doesn't do it by one degree. Best thing is to use EScribe's Device Manager and watch the effects of the power and temperature curves. Or you can just adjust it while you vape and set it where you like it the best.
Cold coil temperature is when the coil is at room temperature. If you just vaped from the coil, it will take sometime for the coil to cool down to room temperature. Depending on the mass of the coil and the atty, it could take a few minutes or up to hours.
i tried to find out but it didn't help much.....can you just try to explain to me but what each addition to the warmth setting does? in terms of temp?
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12 minutes ago, BillW50 said:
Take your pick. As it is selectable between wattage (punch) or temperature (warmth). And you knowing what the cold temperature is, it's important to knowing what the resistance of your coil is. All mods shows the cold resistance nowadays if they are regulated.
I see.....so does each push on the warmth gauge basically ramp up the temp one degree
so in other words cold coil temp (usually shows as 70F) is how the coil is when its not at use?
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3 hours ago, BillW50 said:
It's just adjusting more or less preheat.
The board needs to know what the coil resistance is at room temperature. This and what material the coil is made from to calibrate the temperature readout and output.
-is it preheat in terms of wattage or temperature?
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On 10/29/2022 at 10:09 PM, BillW50 said:
450°F should be fine for a start. Most themes should update the temperature as you are firing. What temperature is it getting up to? You can see the temperature with EScribe's Device Manager too.
hello?
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1 hour ago, BillW50 said:
450°F should be fine for a start. Most themes should update the temperature as you are firing. What temperature is it getting up to? You can see the temperature with EScribe's Device Manager too.
also what is atomizer > coil > cold temperature
What is the point of that ?
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1 hour ago, BillW50 said:
450°F should be fine for a start. Most themes should update the temperature as you are firing. What temperature is it getting up to? You can see the temperature with EScribe's Device Manager too.
also what is warmth on the mod mean....does it have to do with watts or..
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36 minutes ago, BillW50 said:
450°F should be fine for a start. Most themes should update the temperature as you are firing. What temperature is it getting up to? You can see the temperature with EScribe's Device Manager too.
hmm it does move a little while firing i just noticed this shit too wow
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16 minutes ago, BillW50 said:
To start with, just set the temperature at the limit you don't want to go passed. And then set the wattage like you normally would use with power mode. Basically you are done with the basics.
Now for more advanced features like preheat, well if you fire and it takes a second or more for decent vapor and flavor to come out. That means your coil/mesh has a lot of mass. And you can shorten the warm up time by using preheat. You can do so by using either wattage or temperature preheat. Or some might want a hotter vape at the beginning of the vape and then taper cooler for the rest of the puff. Preheat is good for this too.
One con of using preheat is if you chain vape. Sure you can tweak it for the first puff or two, but it will likely get too hot for more repeated vapes (unless it is stopped by the temperature limit). But this would be solved with Replay. As you pick the puff you liked and save it. Now all further puffs will be the same. Regardless of chain vaping or not.
I see i have a ss316 .3ohm coil....so like what would be a good temperature to stop at ? because i am up at like 450 and im getting weak ass hits with live wattage level being at 15w almost when i set it to like 40. this is not for preheat btw.....
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so for the temperature control settings on my mod when i am in ss316 temp control mode for example.....it shows two fields one being the temp you can set the atomizer at.....another being a wattage field which i just thought was normal wattage until i discovered its a preheat watt function.....what is this preheat watt function and should i set it to just normal watts on my device theme?
Should i have wattage, preheat wattage, and temp all three on the temp control profile?
Please help this is all sorta hard for me to understand and basically get why its important and how it all works....other questions are should i lock one of the fields like tempetature ? idk...please help ! lol
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if it wasn't a temp sensing coil would save not show up?
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Any good triple x 2x700 mods that are decent?
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I got the 2800mah molicel one
4 of them