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  1. fonix232

    DNA250C/75C USB Type-C upgrade?

    I know these kind of cables. If I had to describe them in one word, it would be unsafe - especially if you employ some kind of quick charging (Samsung's, Qualcomm Quick Charge or OnePlus' Dash charge). First of all, most of the time the magnetic contacts are not rated to the current going through them, and can quickly overheat. Second, the connection is not 100% secure, small misalignments can happen, further limiting the current that can safely pass through. It's fine for mods that only use up to 5V@500-1000mAh from USB, but anything above is a fire hazard.
  2. fonix232

    DNA250C/75C USB Type-C upgrade?

    No, I do NOT want the DNA boards to play music or any other shit. Being a slave is perfectly fine. I don't even get why you're attacking this point of mine, since it's unimportant. And yes, a few people have to USE the different cable that would be bundled with the device. But in a few years, every new device will have Type-C - heck, if you buy a phone today (that is not an iPhone), you have a roughly 80% chance of getting one with Type-C connector.
  3. fonix232

    DNA250C/75C USB Type-C upgrade?

    It means that you don't have accessories to connect to the mods. Sure, you can use them as a power bank, but that's it. And yes, they can transfer data back and forth, BUT the important part is that the DNA chips will always be slaves, never hosts. You can't connect a USB stick and copy your current config to it. You can't plug a DAC in it and play music. It never serves a purpose as a host, only as a slave.
  4. fonix232

    DNA250C/75C USB Type-C upgrade?

    Apple is sticking to Lightning because otherwise people would riot - lots of accessories made for that port, a sudden change would alienate their users (see the debacle with the Type-C only MacBooks, albeit that was a step in the right direction, there was also a huge backlash). In-car navigation manufacturers stick to MiniUSB for the same reason - lots of their customers have a well set up accessory system, and changing that is suicide. On the other hand we're using the USB ports on our mods as receivers only, and since most phones, lots of laptops, and even other devices (e.g. Ubiquiti's Amplifi HD) already use Type-C, it would be a wise choice to switch to that on mods. Yihi already did that with the SX550J and SX580J, and it works just fine. The port is more durable, has wider protocol support (e.g. it could incorporate quick charging). MicroUSB needs to die sooner or later, and it would be preferable for everyone if it happened sooner. Change is inevitable, and TBH just sticking to micro-B because a few members "would rather all DNA's have the same connector" is a stupid decision.
  5. fonix232

    DNA250C/75C USB Type-C upgrade?

    Not necessarily. If no extra features (such as Power Delivery, USB3.x speeds, etc.) are required, a simple drop-in replacement board can be used - which pretty much just wires the USB2.0 lines (5V, GND, Tx and Rx) to the proper Type-C lines, and adds the appropriate resistors (Type-C uses quite a few safety measures, e.g. cable sensing, and even cables are authenticated for higher power use, etc. - all of this is not required for USB2.0, where these features are disabled by putting proper resistors between certain lines of the Type-C connector host). However no such design exists for the DNA75C/250C as of now. The key difference between such a drop-in board and the adapter you're recommending is that while one can verify that the board is up to spec, they can't do so with an adapter that is already packaged. And most of these adapters are not up to spec. Unfortunately, the whole Type-C market was, for the past two years, a huge clusterfuck thanks to chinese manufacturers jumping on the bandwagon and spewing out incompatible products, endangering all the users. What I hope for is that the next Evolv DNA board will be Type-C native.
  6. fonix232

    DNA250C/75C USB Type-C upgrade?

    No, because that's all along the spec. USB Type-C specification restricts the conversion of the male end to any other male plug directly. What you're doing is using a male-to-female adapter (which is well within the spec, see e.g. Type-C USB hubs that give you up to 6 USB A ports), and then using it as host. What you're recommending here, though, is converting an existing male USB Type-C port into a male microUSB. This is a very case the specification made point of - you should NEVER do this. And because this is against the specs, manufacturers can't get it verified (i.e. they can't use the "USB-IF Approved" logos or the USB logo itself), thus most likely are lesser quality than desired. Unfortunately lots of manufacturers ignore the requirements of Type-C, and push products that break the spec - which is not good because breaking the spec means unexpected behaviour, and it's especially dangerous for a port that does much, much more than just data transfer and charging.
  7. fonix232

    DNA250C/75C USB Type-C upgrade?

    Possibly. These converters are against the spec (as I repeatedly stated), and should NEVER be used.
  8. fonix232

    DNA250C/75C USB Type-C upgrade?

    Yes it would - but as I said, it breaks the spec, and opens up the mod for more possible failures (e.g. using a Quick Charge or USB PD enabled charger could accidentally trigger higher voltage charging and kill the mod). That's why I'm rather looking for replacing the onboard connector with a female Type-C.
  9. fonix232

    DNA250C/75C USB Type-C upgrade?

    Except for the fact that this kind of conversion (converting a Type-C male to a different male, e.g. micro-B) is against the spec, and you won't find a reputable manufacturer that makes them. Actually, even after some extensive googling, I couldn't find an adapter that has male micro-B and female Type-C.
  10. As the title says. Has anyone done it yet? Are there any information out there about the procedure? I know that it does not add any extra features, won't enable USB Power Delivery, et cetera, but since most of my devices are Type-C already, it would be nice if I did not have to carry an extra charging cable on me.