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Posts posted by Fabian9988
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39 minutes ago, Wayneo said:
And you used the thick ground pad right beside your positive from the 510?
Yes I'm using that small washer looking thing with the arm pad thing that sticks out and goes around the bottom of the 510 and the locking nut holds it and the 510 in place
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4 minutes ago, Wayneo said:
RAW ohms live it would range from 0.386 - 0.405. <<-- Yeah, AA will fire 1 watt intermittently, and that's where you might be seeing that jump.
Why do all my other DNA250 mods only jump up and down by 0.001 ohms when using the same RDA and build in the RAW ohms? I feel like since its a 3D printed box that the ground is just not as solid as the metal boxes. Even when I vape on it it jumps from 0.20 ohms, 0.21, 0.22, 0.23 and 0.24 everytime I push the fire button. While my other 2 mods stay right at 0.20 ohms. I don't vape in TC ever and I only use kanthal a1 wire. So it should not be jumping like say SS wire.
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Yes I was using AA to get the mod resistance. Using the same RDA and same 0.20 ohm build on 2 of my other DNA250 devices they were 0.004 and 0.006 and while in AA with the RDA attached the RAW ohms live field would stay within 0.001 up or down. Now with the mod I am having issues with using the same RDA as before and same 0.20 ohm build it was showing the 0.20 ohm in the cold coil ohms, but in the RAW ohms live it would range from 0.386 - 0.405. It is a VT V2 510 with 14G wire running to the bottom of the 510 and to the ground plate. All connections are on snug and arent broken
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I have a 3D printed mod that has an unusually high mod resistance and climbs in AA. Never seen this before all my other mods stay within 0.001 up and down. This one will climb 0.10-0.20 and is very unstable. I have cleaned all of the 510's and all of the wiring is snug and not broken. All tests were done with the same RDA and build.
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I have never seen this mod. I've searched for pics but cant seem to find any
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1 hour ago, LeeWB3 said:
No, they are not sold anymore. I bought 2 secondhand, one of which had almost never been used. I have verified calibration using several means and believe i am VERY close so I can use it as my standard to compare other mods to.
Nice I'll have t look around on the FB groups and see if any used ones pop up.
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9 minutes ago, LeeWB3 said:
The DNA75c is reading ohms quite differently than in previous versions. It's also reading them differently using different versions of the firmware. In comparing results to that generated by a well calibrated Hobo X Al, I had four 75c mods that WERE reading them significantly lower. I would have needed a negative mod resistance offset to actually calibrate the mods and that's not possible. The most recent early release firmware (SP5) is suddenly reading them quite a bit lower and using the same Hobo X comparison I'm now needing to use a mod resistance offset of around 0.008. The four mods are vaping quite a bit better now. There ARE some other issues with the new firmware, but for me it's been an improvement.
Wow. Do they still sell Hobo X AI mods? I've herd a few times about that mod being as close to perfect as you can get in terms of the resistance
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1 hour ago, giz_60 said:
A very slight variance is normal. .003 sounds a lot better than .019
Yeah I did a known resistance build of 0.7 and with the 0.003 the Rebel is right where it needs to be.
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When I'm in atomizer analyzer should the raw ohms be going up and down by 0.001 with the atty on all the way? It does not constantly move, it will stay on a reading for a bit but sometimes jumps 0.001 then goes back to the number it seems to stay on most of the time. It looks like the mod resistance is actually 0.003
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2 hours ago, Wayneo said:
Please let us know the results.
Oh so the copper 510 short does not work anymore? Should I cancel the order?
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3 hours ago, Lowbytes said:
So - one more try - i´ll take a look into your problem - can you please upload your ecig file of both mods - maybe we can discover whats up............
Ok so I changed the Rebel back to 0 and figured out how to save the ecig files. So I will upload them here. Let me know what you think thanks! Everything is back to how I got them new except the brightness and fade setting stuff.
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51 minutes ago, Wayneo said:
@Fabian9988 I applaud all your efforts, and if you will validate your VS is actually .007, then your Rebel value would also be correct.
@Lowbytes No offense my good man, I was merely saying you could run with this ......... you know the old "Too many cooks can spoil the broth" saying, or something like that. We're all here to learn and assist each other.
Here's the post I promised, and notice he used a straight 75.
Yea hopefully once I get the 510 copper short I will be able to see that the VS and the Rebel are. Cause right now they are 0.03ohms off. Which seems like a fairly big gap when all we're talking about for internal resistance is 0.001's
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26 minutes ago, Wayneo said:
Seems very high compared to the mods I own. Your VS was probably just populated from the values obtained from a batch, but you can test it using this method to validate, after setting it to 0 and then uploading. AA has not worked for me with the copper shorting tool since Feb 2016 on any 2xx series board, first going down to .006 followed by a ?. Now with the latest escribe v1.2 sp5.2, it goes down to .005 IIRC, without ever a ?
Wondering what you'll look at here?
Aren't your thoughts backwards here? You can bottom out the VS, but you cannot on the Rebel, meaning you're guaranteed a stronger connection on the Rebel.
I'll defer to @Lowbytes who has the entire German community behind him, and even @LeeWB3 here, the creator of those 4 fine calibration videos.
My last comment .......... a lower than actual value, or 0, is better than an incorrect high value
Ok I'll set it back to 0 in escribe and when the copper 510 tool gets here see what it comes up with. Obviously the 0.03 difference between the 2 doesn't bother me. I just was confused as to why the same board would show different results. Now that I've learned about the whole internal mod resistance and setting it I can see why they are off. I was just worried my new Rebel may have had an issue. I've already learned a good amount of info here. Thanks everyone
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25 minutes ago, Lowbytes said:
So it might be the black version of the fat daddy
Yes it looks like the black on there.
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18 minutes ago, Lowbytes said:
Normally Boxer/Rebel using Fat Daddy 510 connectors - for me the best 510 - so if you have problems to tighten the atomizer completely the problem is related to the threading of the atomizers 510 ----SMOK crap?
Sorry - maybe others having different experiences with SMOK Atomizers ...... i do´nt like them - to much trouble ;-)
I have 3 mods and they all read off from the VaporShark. Reload RTA, Goon V1.5 and Cosmonaut RDA. All good quality atomizers. Idk what 510 is on the Rebel but it seems they out a black plasticish type thing over it
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13 minutes ago, Lowbytes said:
So - one more try - i´ll take a look into your problem - can you please upload your ecig file of both mods - maybe we can discover whats up............
Idk how to do that lol. Sorry
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55 minutes ago, Lowbytes said:
0,019 ohm????? Normally you use a copper tool to read the internal mod resistance - the copper will shorten the 510 connector with no external resistance - so your measurement will only read the internal resistance of the wire - 510 connector - usually it will come out with 0,003 ohms - this 0,003 ohms are part of the total resistance measured with an attached atomizer - if your atomizers coil is 0,16 Ohms you´ll have a total resistance of 0,163 Ohms - the DNA knows that the 0,003 Ohms are not the part of the coil resistance - So without copper tool you´ll never get 100% accurateness - the lower the numbers of the mod (mod resistance) the better it is.
But thats my interpretation of the function - as i told you i´m not an expert - stay tuned until someone from evolve follows and answer your question............or someone else here in the forum
Regards
Mikel
Yeah I ordered one of the tools last night. So once it's get here I'll be able to do the proper test. I just figured my VaporShark DNA250 is showing true ohms since they actually did the resistance test to get the 0.007 that shows in eScribe. Where as the Rebel showed 0
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12 hours ago, Lowbytes said:
You´re always welcome!
(b.t.w i´m not a specialist - so following my tips is on your own risk)
So in order for my Rebel mod to read the same as the VaporShark that was tested correctly the Rebel needs to be at 0.019 ohm mod resistance. Is that normal or a high number?
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4 minutes ago, Lowbytes said:
Ok thanks for all the help guys!
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7 minutes ago, Lowbytes said:
In the end you will find out that it is (mostly) 0,003 Ohms of mod resistance (like my Boxer) - for exact results you also should do the case analyze !
What is the case analyze ?
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2 minutes ago, Lowbytes said:
For the test mod resistance calibration you need to use TC wire - of course your mod will also work with Kanthal coils
Please make sure that both mods are using the same wire material curves!
Ok I guess I'll have to go grab some TC wire from a local shop. I'll only be doing this calibration on the Rebel mod since it shows 0 and was not done to it.
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36 minutes ago, Wayneo said:
So your Rebel has not been setup. Search the forum for giz_method mod resistance and hopefully you'll find it. Otherwise I'll find it and send you a link tomorrow. It'll take about 15 minutes tops to find and set (10 of 'em to make sure your coil is back at ambient temperature. Your still perfectly fine to use your mod.
Mod resistance calibration (giz method) without picturesA coil will work, but the Test is best run with about a 4in. - 6in. piece of TC wire across an RDA build decks posts. (like a baseball shape, not a coil)In Escribe (mod tab), set Mod Resistance to 0.In wire profile, Power = 1 Temp = 0 / Preheat temp = 1 preheat Punch = 1 Preheat Time Limit = 0.Upload To Device ... attach deck with coil or wire to mod ...pulse (quick) fire to get mod to check cold ohms (if new coil question asked, answer yes)Run Atomizer Analyzer ... allow wire to cool back to room temperature (extremely important) & subtract the Cold Ohms from the Raw OhmsThe difference will be the Mod Resistance..Thanks I'll give this a try tomorrow. I don't have to use TC only wore right? Kanthal will work also
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20 minutes ago, Wayneo said:
Fire up escribe. For the MOD tab to appear - Options (menu bar) -> User Interface -> Manufacture
Go to 'Mod' tab. What is the 'Mod Resistance' value for each mod?
VaporShark is 0.007 ohms
Rebel is 0
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Hey I'm new to the forum and fairly new to DNA mods. Looking for some help with a issue I'm having.
My RDA reads 0.13ohms on my VaporShark DNA250 with 3S Lipo Pack. But when I put it on my Rebel DNA250/167 it reads 0.16ohms this mod uses 2 18650's.
I tried to be as detailed as possible for the best answer. Is this an issue that I can fix? Or is it not a big deal and ignore it? Thank you.
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Well after work today I went ahead and took the mod apart and took all the 510 wires off. Removed all the solder, fluxed all the areas and used some new strips of wire and re-soldered all the 510 connections. So far so good. Coming in at 0.004 ohm mod resistance and no more ohms jumping all over when I press the fire button. Must have been a dirty, bad solder point or bad wire.